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   From: yanks@olg.com   
      
   On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:31:54 +0100, hummingbird   
    wrote:   
      
   >On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:27:13 -0400  'Mrs Ken Ehrett'   
   >posted this onto uk.politics.misc:   
   >   
   >>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:27:48 +0100, hummingbird   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>On 25 Jul 2006 22:12:34 GMT  'Bert Hyman'   
   >>>posted this onto uk.politics.misc:   
   >>>   
   >>>>In news:l9lbc2t03pg6p5ppavp6t71acjtselggbg@4ax.com hummingbird   
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> In reality what you are seeing is Israel seeking vengeance, nothing   
   >>>>> more.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Against Hizballah,   
   >>>   
   >>>Not so. The Israelis fired the first shot in this war and are now   
   >>>imposing collective punishment onto civilians incl women and children.   
   >>   
   >>Clearly you think Hezbollah has the right to grab Israeli soldiers and   
   >>Israel is just supposed to accept it.   Tough cookies and all that.   
   >   
   >No, I do not think that. Pity you can only see two extreme options.   
      
   >The issue is what sort of response from Israel would have been most   
   >effective, not only in securing release of their two soldiers but also   
   >with an eye on the longer term. Bear in mind that what Hezbolloh   
   >wanted is to use the captives as negotiating chips to secure release   
   >of their own people held by Israel - many more in number.   
   >   
   >I bet that by launching a massive bombing campaign to kill hundreds   
   >of innocent women/kids and causing huge destruction, Israel has not   
   >only lessened the chances of soldier release but also created a lot   
   >more hatred - and therefore future terrorism - against itself. Is   
   >that a good policy?   
   >   
   >Fact is that bombing will not solve the current problem.   
      
   Killing all of Hezbollah will solve a lot of the current problems in   
   the middle east and Israel might well go through Damascus to get the   
   job done.   
      
      
   >>>That is immoral and clearly against international law.   
   >>   
   >>What does International Law say about kidnapping people from their own   
   >>country?   Tough cookies there too?   
   >   
   >Israel is equally guilty of such actions as its adversaries. Let's not   
   >forget that Israel has been conducting a political assassination   
   >policy for several years - quaintly described as *targeted killings*.   
      
   Good.   When their sworn enemies are bent on the total destruction of   
   Israel the only response of the Israelis should be total extermination   
   of the threat.   
      
   I guess we disagree, bird.   :)   
      
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