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   Of the 400 or so killed on the Lebonese side, I understand only about 40 or   
   so Hezbollah were killed. So in seeking your extermination of a threat you   
   think it right that thousands of innocents will be killed too?   
   And what of the families of those killed - you expect them to say "Ok, my   
   wife/husband/parents/children were killed but it was for a good cause.". No,   
   they will foster more hatred and this in turn will lead to future violence.   
   I hope you one day experience the "terror" currently being inflicted on   
   thousands of civilians and then perhaps you will be less ready to wave the   
   flag for bombing raids and killing children.   
      
   (please don't come back with the "Israelis dying" crap either - of the 40   
   odd Israeli deaths so far, only 17 have been civilian. Israel could kill   
   that many Palestinians on a family trip to the beach and not even   
   appologise!)   
      
   "Mrs Ken Ehrett"  wrote in message   
   news:79qec25pd1gn7k69d7g2h7t87r36bi9j71@4ax.com...   
   > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:31:54 +0100, hummingbird   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:27:13 -0400  'Mrs Ken Ehrett'   
   >>posted this onto uk.politics.misc:   
   >>   
   >>>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:27:48 +0100, hummingbird   
   >>> wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>On 25 Jul 2006 22:12:34 GMT  'Bert Hyman'   
   >>>>posted this onto uk.politics.misc:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>In news:l9lbc2t03pg6p5ppavp6t71acjtselggbg@4ax.com hummingbird   
   >>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> In reality what you are seeing is Israel seeking vengeance, nothing   
   >>>>>> more.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>Against Hizballah,   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Not so. The Israelis fired the first shot in this war and are now   
   >>>>imposing collective punishment onto civilians incl women and children.   
   >>>   
   >>>Clearly you think Hezbollah has the right to grab Israeli soldiers and   
   >>>Israel is just supposed to accept it.   Tough cookies and all that.   
   >>   
   >>No, I do not think that. Pity you can only see two extreme options.   
   >   
   >>The issue is what sort of response from Israel would have been most   
   >>effective, not only in securing release of their two soldiers but also   
   >>with an eye on the longer term. Bear in mind that what Hezbolloh   
   >>wanted is to use the captives as negotiating chips to secure release   
   >>of their own people held by Israel - many more in number.   
   >>   
   >>I bet that by launching a massive bombing campaign to kill hundreds   
   >>of innocent women/kids and causing huge destruction, Israel has not   
   >>only lessened the chances of soldier release but also created a lot   
   >>more hatred - and therefore future terrorism - against itself. Is   
   >>that a good policy?   
   >>   
   >>Fact is that bombing will not solve the current problem.   
   >   
   > Killing all of Hezbollah will solve a lot of the current problems in   
   > the middle east and Israel might well go through Damascus to get the   
   > job done.   
   >   
   >   
   >>>>That is immoral and clearly against international law.   
   >>>   
   >>>What does International Law say about kidnapping people from their own   
   >>>country?   Tough cookies there too?   
   >>   
   >>Israel is equally guilty of such actions as its adversaries. Let's not   
   >>forget that Israel has been conducting a political assassination   
   >>policy for several years - quaintly described as *targeted killings*.   
   >   
   > Good.   When their sworn enemies are bent on the total destruction of   
   > Israel the only response of the Israelis should be total extermination   
   > of the threat.   
   >   
   > I guess we disagree, bird.   :)   
      
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