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   From: libassbug@Yahwho.com   
      
   hummingbird wrote:   
      
   > On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:27:13 -0400  'Mrs Ken Ehrett'   
   > posted this onto uk.politics.misc:   
   >   
   >   
   >>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 00:27:48 +0100, hummingbird   
   >> wrote:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>On 25 Jul 2006 22:12:34 GMT  'Bert Hyman'   
   >>>posted this onto uk.politics.misc:   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >>>>In news:l9lbc2t03pg6p5ppavp6t71acjtselggbg@4ax.com hummingbird   
   >>>> wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>>In reality what you are seeing is Israel seeking vengeance, nothing   
   >>>>>more.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>Against Hizballah,   
   >>>   
   >>>Not so. The Israelis fired the first shot in this war and are now   
   >>>imposing collective punishment onto civilians incl women and children.   
   >>   
   >>Clearly you think Hezbollah has the right to grab Israeli soldiers and   
   >>Israel is just supposed to accept it.   Tough cookies and all that.   
   >   
   >   
   > No, I do not think that. Pity you can only see two extreme options.   
   >   
   > The issue is what sort of response from Israel would have been most   
   > effective,   
      
   Clearly nuking the whole southern tier would have been most effective.   
      
   > not only in securing release of their two soldiers but also   
   > with an eye on the longer term. Bear in mind that what Hezbolloh   
   > wanted is to use the captives as negotiating chips to secure release   
   > of their own people held by Israel -   
      
   So they say. But we all know Hezbollah first mission is to kill jews.   
   Once that is done they move on to the second part of the mission - kill   
   Christian. Guess what the third part of the mission is.   
      
   > many more in number.   
   >   
   > I bet that by launching a massive bombing campaign to kill hundreds   
   > of innocent women/kids and causing huge destruction, Israel has not   
   > only lessened the chances of soldier release but also created a lot   
   > more hatred   
      
   More hatred? Does it matter at this point?   
      
   >- and therefore future terrorism - against itself. Is   
   > that a good policy?   
   >   
   > Fact is that bombing will not solve the current problem.   
      
   What will solve it? Everybody shaking hands and going out for a falafel?   
      
   >>>That is immoral and clearly against international law.   
   >>   
   >>What does International Law say about kidnapping people from their own   
   >>country?   Tough cookies there too?   
   >   
   >   
   > Israel is equally guilty of such actions as its adversaries.   
      
   I'm sure they are, but the point is Hezbollah are terrorist. They know   
   it, I know it, you know it, Iran knows it. The only way to deal with   
   Hezbollah is to cut all their fucking heads off one at a time in public   
   view. Then you need to open them up like fish in front of the town   
   squares. That way the little 10 year old terrorist in training will   
   think about choosing a different career when they grow up.   
      
   I know you think I'm being crude, gross, maybe even think I'm out of my   
   mind and need psychological help, but deep down you know I'm right,   
   because fighting fire with fire has gotten nowhere and now is time to   
   burn the whole forest and start over. If you want to fix the Middle East   
   you need to destroy it because it's too far gone for peace. It's OK to   
   admit it - You're among friends.   
      
   > Let's not   
   > forget that Israel has been conducting a political assassination   
   > policy for several years - quaintly described as *targeted killings*.   
   >   
      
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