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   Scout to All   
   Re: Handgun ban in U.S. capital could re   
   20 Sep 07 09:39:05   
   
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   From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "Leif"  wrote in message   
   news:1190265660.976219.131070@v23g2000prn.googlegroups.com...   
   > On Sep 19, 2:59 pm, "RD (The Sandman)"   
   >  wrote:   
   >> Leif  wrote   
   >> innews:1190092184.280376.168970@n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
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   >>   
   >> > On Sep 17, 3:03 pm, "RSweeney"  wrote:   
   >> >> "Leif"  wrote in message   
   >> >> > Leif speaking:  "The people" referred to in the 2nd Amendment was   
   >> >> > the well regulated  militia.  The militia of 1789 wasn't just a   
   >> >> > "resource pool."  It was an organized state entity, made up of men   
   >> >> > capable of bearing arms, enrolled in militia companies for training   
   >> >> > and service.   
   >>   
   >> >> The people referred to in the entire bill of rights is the entire   
   >> >> citizenry.   
   >>   
   >> >> Madison could just as easily had used the term "militia" and not   
   >> >> people. He didn't.   
   >>   
   >> > Leif speaking:  The word "militia" appears in the Second Amendment.   
   >> > The word Madison didn't use but could have is "individuals."   
   >>   
   >> Not when the subject was the preservation of state soveriegnty.  That is   
   >> one of the jobs of the state militia.  HOW they did it was to draw from a   
   >> pool of armed citizenry in lieu of a standing state army.   
   >   
   > Leif speaking:  Why would the state need to "draw from a pool or armed   
   > citizenry" when it already had an organized and trained militia force,   
   > as indicated by John Adams in the quote I have previously provided?   
      
   Either the force isn't large enough for the emergency or it is decided to   
   increase the size of the force. It's like our military. If we want to   
   increase the size of our military, where exactly do you think the extra   
   people come from?   
      
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