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   From: me4guns@verizon.removeme.this2.nospam.net   
      
   "Leif"  wrote in message   
   news:1190263499.204359.138190@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com...   
   > On Sep 19, 2:33 pm, "RD (The Sandman)"   
   >  wrote:   
   >> Leif  wrote   
   >> innews:1190083380.898090.109280@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com:   
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   >> > On Sep 17, 8:21 am, "RD (The Sandman)"   
   >> >  wrote:   
   >> >> Leif  wrote   
   >> >> innews:1190003663.704286.7890@n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:   
   >>   
   >> >> > Each application of the term "the people" takes some of its meaning   
   >> >> > from its context.  In the Second Amendment, the context is the well   
   >> >> > regulated militia.  "The people" in that amendment  were made up of   
   >> >> > all those nonexempt men who, under state militia law,  were   
   >> >> > considered capable of bearing arms (capable of military service) as   
   >> >> > a well regulated militia.   
   >>   
   >> >> IOW, you feel that anyone over the age of 45 has to turn in their   
   >> >> guns since they have no right to have them?   
   >>   
   >> > Leif speaking:  Of course I don't feel that "anyone over the age of 45   
   >> > should have to turn in their guns," if they have their guns in   
   >> > compliance with all laws.  But the Second Amendment is simply not   
   >> > involved, unless possession of the guns is in some way related to   
   >> > militia service.   
   >>   
   >> Second Amendment and RKBA are two separate issues.   
   >   
   > Leif speaking:  I agree.  The Second Amendment is about the right of   
   > the people as a militia   
      
   Sorry, I seem to have missed that "as a miliita" modifier. Where exactly in   
   the 2nd can I find it and by what process of grammar does it become a   
   modifier of "the people"?   
      
   I mean you keep asserting this modifier is attached to the people, but   
   somehow you never seem able to point out where it is in the sentence or by   
   what process under the Standard Rules of English it modifies the noun   
   "people".   
      
      
      
   > to keep and bear arms for the security of a   
   > free state. An individual right to keep and bear arms is about the   
   > personal use of guns.   
      
   Yep, but again I see nothing that declares the right to keep and bear arms   
   shall only be protected for one purpose. Again can you show me where in the   
   2nd it states that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed   
   only for the purpose of providing security for a free state, and by what   
   process "security of a free state" becomes attached to "shall not be   
   infringed"?   
      
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