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   XPost: talk.politics.guns   
   From: Nope@noway.net   
      
   SaPeIsMa wrote:   
   >   
   > "Topp@Work"  wrote in message   
   > news:qr6dnYOl9N83XW7bnZ2dnUVZ_uGknZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >>   
   >> "Leif"  wrote in message   
   >> news:1190340183.822207.25630@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com...   
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   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> Leif speaking:  The entire first half of the Second Amendment tells us   
   >>> that the amendment is about the importance of a well regulated militia   
   >>> in the security of a free state.  If the amendment had been about   
   >>> individual  gun use, Madison would have said so.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> He did Say so:   
   >> "The right of the people to keep and bear...arms shall not be   
   >> infringed.  A well regulated militia, composed of the people, trained   
   >> to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country..."   
   >> -James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789)   
   >>   
   >> "The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which   
   >> Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation   
   >> where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms."   
   >> -James Madison   
   >>   
   >> "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed;   
   >> a well armed and well regulated militia being the best security   
   >> of a free country; but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms   
   >> shall be compelled to render military service in person."   
   >> -James Madison,I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789   
   >>   
   >> "Americans need never fear their government   
   >> because of the advantage of being armed,   
   >> which the Americans possess over the people   
   >> of almost every other nation."   
   >> -James Madison   
   >>   
   >> "A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained in   
   >> arms,   
   >> is the best most natural defense of a free country. "   
   >> James Madison   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> And he even warned us agains the Gun Grabbers :   
   >>   
   >> "Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will   
   >> have   
   >> perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a   
   >> distorted,   
   >> bastardized form of illegitimate government. "   
   >> James Madison   
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   >>   
   >   
   > Wow   
   > That's a pretty complete way of blowing leif out of the water   
   >    Do you think he's going to get it this time ?   
   >    Or will he invent some new nonsense to tried to justify his   
   > unjustifiable belief ?   
   >   
      
   I might be misremembering, but didn't Leif say he's a military vet?   
      
   If so, the question might be relevant, for which side?   
      
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