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   XPost: talk.politics.guns   
   From: Nope@noway.net   
      
   Scout wrote:   
   > "Magus"  wrote in message   
   > news:y0YJi.64425$Y7.64012@bignews3.bellsouth.net...   
   >> Scout wrote:   
   >>> "Leif"  wrote in message   
      
   >>>> Leif speaking:  Then we agree that the militia consisted of those who   
   >>>> were obliged to militia service by law, rather that being taken from   
   >>>> persons from the general public who happened to have a gun?   
   >>> So once again Leif is back to claiming the militia is defined under   
   >>> federal/state law.   
   >>>   
   >>> You really do need to make up your mind there Leif, exactly who defines   
   >>> the militia. Is it the Founding Fathers, the law, or SCOTUS?   
   >>>   
   >>> Oh, and no matter how the militia is defined.....the right is still that   
   >>> of the people. You do know who the people are, right?   
   >>>   
   >>>   
   >> No he doesn't. According to him it's those obliged to serve in the   
   >> militia.   
   >   
   > Well, he says that then turns around and ignores both federal and state law   
   > and claims that SCOTUS says the militia is only the National Guard.   
   >   
   > He really does need some consistency in his argument because his assertion   
   > of who the militia is changes from message to message. One might even get   
   > the impression he doesn't know, other than he wants it to sound like he does   
   > and he doesn't want it to mean anyone not under the thumb of the federal   
   > government.   
   >   
   >   
      
   His inconsistency comes from reading into things what he wants to see   
   there. He starts with "this is how things are" and looks for cites that   
   vaguely support his opinion--rather than reading the material to   
   determine the truth.   
      
   >> According to Weasel it's the federal government.   
   >   
   > Citing Weasel is sort of like quoting a chipmunk. A lot of chatter, but no   
   > content.   
   >   
      
   Was I citing the Weasel or using him as another absurdity?   
      
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