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   From: redtail1964@hotmail.com   
      
   "Armand Tamzarian"  wrote in message   
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   > Craig Wilkens  wrote in   
   > news:MPG.219313f520513c4d989694@nntp.aioe.org:   
   >   
   >> Armand Tamzarian  wrote:   
   >>> "Most Americans have absolutely nothing"?  - What the hell are you   
   >>> talking about? Americans have more and better things than any time in   
   >>> history. Cars that have lifetime engine warranties, HDTV's, i-Pods,   
   >>> cell phones, Blackberries, home computers, dvd players, Tivo, video   
   >>> games, the internet, fancier houses with microwave ovens, automatic   
   >>> diswashers, clothes washers and dryers, surround sound stereos, king   
   >>> sized beds, jacuzzi bathtubs, bikes, snowboards, skis, excercise   
   >>> equipment, plastic surgery & breast implants, overseas vacations,   
   >>> grocery stores with over 100,000 items to choose from, giant malls,   
   >>> thousands of restaurants in every town, and much, much, much more!   
   >>>   
   >> Another ignorant asshole speaks.  You actually consider cheap,   
   >> disposable consumer electronic items and automobiles to be of long   
   >> term intrinsic value or a representation of wealth?   
   >>   
   >   
   > No, but I do consider the fact 98.3% of all American households have a   
   > television set. Think about that, even the poorest Americans still have   
   > television, indoor plumbing, a refrigerator, etc. Even severe poverty in   
   > America still usually means owning a tv, microwave, telephone, etc. These   
   > are not just toys, they improve our standard of living and represent true   
   > wealth. When I was in the Navy I experienced 32 different countries   
   > around the world and I can say that Americans on welfare here (I know   
   > because I grew up in a poor neighborhood) have a much higher standard of   
   > living than some "wealthy" people in other nations.   
   >   
   > If you want to argue that Americans have nothing when it comes to moral   
   > values, charitable hearts, and love for the God that created us, I agree   
   > with you 100%. Most lost that when the pseudo-intellectual, moral   
   > relivists took over our schools and mass media. But when it comes to   
   > property and material wealth, Americans have more than any other   
   > civilization in history. That's why millions of people around the globe   
   > are clawing their way in our direction, trying to get here and become   
   > Americans! I'm one of the few who is still proud of our heritage and   
   > thankful of what we are blessed with. Its from that pride I am motivated   
   > to make it a better place instead of just whining about how bad things   
   > are getting. My grandpa does that and he is really old.   
      
   Looks like I'm not the only one who agrees with John Beck. More Power to ya,   
   man.   
      
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