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   Message 4,183 of 4,706   
   slate_leeper to rossjohnl@nambla.net   
   Re: Myth: The 2nd. Amendment Guarantees    
   03 Jan 08 13:25:09   
   
   XPost: alt.conspiracy.new-world-order, alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-right   
   From: bycy-r0bj@spamex.com   
      
   On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 18:48:07 -0500, Ross John Lambourn   
    wrote:   
      
   >Myth: The Second Amendment guarantees the individual right to own a gun.   
   >   
   >Fact: The Supreme Court has always interpreted this as a state's militia's   
   >right, not an individual's.   
   >   
      
      
   Myth: That Lambert is capable of speaking a truth.   
      
   Fact: Lambert has been proven to be lying in this forum before. His   
   only apparent source of info is Brady Center (formerly Handgun   
   Control, Inc.).   
      
      
   "This is not to imply that courts have totally ignored the impact of   
   the Second Amendment in the Bill of Rights. No fewer than twenty-one   
   decisions by the courts of our states have recognized an individual   
   right to keep and bear arms, and a majority of these have not only   
   recognized the right but invalidated laws or regulations which   
   abridged it. Yet in all too many instances, courts or commentators   
   have sought, for reasons only tangentially related to constitutional   
   history, to construe this right out of existence. They argue that the   
   Second Amendment's words "right of the people" mean "a right of the   
   state"--apparently overlooking the impact of those same words when   
   used in the First and Fourth Amendments. The "right of the people" to   
   assemble or to be free from unreasonable searches and seizures is not   
   contested as an individual guarantee. Still they ignore consistency   
   and claim that the right to "bear arms" relates only to military uses.   
   This not only violates a consistent constitutional reading of "right   
   of the people" but also ignores that the second amendment protects a   
   right to "keep" arms. These commentators contend instead that the   
   amendment's preamble regarding the necessity of a "well regulated   
   militia . . . to a free state" means that the right to keep and bear   
   arms applies only to a National Guard. Such a reading fails to note   
   that the Framers used the term "militia" to relate to every citizen   
   capable of bearing arms, and that the Congress has established the   
   present National Guard under its own power to raise armies, expressly   
   stating that it was not doing so under its power to organize and arm   
   the militia. "   
      
   Orrin G. Hatch   
   Chairman   
   Subcommittee on the Constitution   
   January 20, 1982   
      
      
      
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