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   Zomby-Woof@cox.net to topprolmc@comcast.net   
   Re: Conservatives vs. Liberals   
   20 Apr 08 13:37:51   
   
   XPost: alt.conspiracy.new-world-order, alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-rights   
      
   On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:26:52 -0400, "Topp@Work"   
    wrote:   
      
   >   
   >"Freedom Fighter"  wrote in message   
   >news:n8ONj.205182$cQ1.101063@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...   
   >> "Topp@Work"  wrote in message   
   >> news:vqadnVePZ60KzZrVnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@giganews.com...   
   >> >   
   >> > "Freedom Fighter"  wrote in message   
   >> > news:GysNj.103279$D_3.41913@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...   
   >> >> Who nailed who to a cross?   
   >> >   
   >> > No one.   
   >> > Prove Jesus even existed.   
   >>   
   >> Good point, but Jesus or his alleged teachings WERE "liberal."   
   >>   
   >> >> Who were the Loyalists to the totalitarian monarchy of King George?   
   >> > Sheeple, like all liberals.   
   >>   
   >> KKKon$ervatives, who always resist change and greater freedom, and are the   
   >> source and defenders of tyrrany.   
   >   
   >Hardly.   
   >Loyalists liked  to be dictated to, and didn't want change.....   
   >   
   >   
   >>   
   >> >> Who started our Civil War to defend slavery?   
   >> >   
   >> > You have been brain washed. The Civil war was begun as a war of States   
   >> > Rights Vs. Federal rights.  Lincoln "freed the Slaves" as a last ditch   
   >> > effort to keep union support for the war as cities like NY and boston   
   >were   
   >> > in total chaos with people fighting in the streets-   
   >>   
   >> No more so than during the anti-Vietnam war demonstration days.   
   >   
   >Very different.....   
   >   
   >>   
   >> > Proof- if the Civil war was about slavery, and started in 1861, why   
   >> > weren't   
   >> > the slaves "freed" until the Emancipation Proclimation which was 1863?   
   >> > hrmmm....2 years of war that had nothing  to do with freeing slaves....   
   >>   
   >> One of the MAJOR issues of that time was slavery. The South used the   
   >"states   
   >> rights" principle to defend the practice.   
   >   
   >But yet, you can't even say that the war was started over slavery...It was   
   >started over an   
   >economic disadvantage the south had....   
   >90% of manufacturing was in the north, along with the transportation   
   >(railroads)..   
   >Thats the pure fact   
   >   
   It is actually fact and a concern going all the way back to the   
   founding of the country.   
   >>   
   >> > Complain to the liberals who changed the school curiculum to omit that   
   >> > fact.   
   >>   
   >> KKKon$ervatives don't rewrite history when it is to their advantage, I   
   >> suppose?   
   >   
   >Rainbow curriculum has no place in schools...   
   >   
   >> How come we are not taught the fact that Pearl Harbor was ALLOWED TO   
   >HAPPEN?   
   >   
   >Cite your proof....   
   >Cause thats hardly the truth.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> >> Who fought to keep women as property, and now fights their   
   >> >> sovereignty over their own bodies in the freedom to choose   
   >> >> abortion?   
   >> >   
   >> > No one ever fought to keep women as property.   
   >>   
   >> Many women consider attempts to legally dictate to them about abortion,   
   >> birth control, etc. to be just that.   
   >   
   >But yet no one fought for women to be property, regardless of how someone   
   >"felt"....   
   >   
   >>   
   >> >> Who fought against child labor statutes?   
   >> >   
   >> > ALL wealth people.  They got wealthy on cheap labor.  For all of human   
   >> > existance, children WORKED.  Until some genuis thought we should spoil   
   >> > them   
   >> > with video games and cell phones.  By your very thought, it's  a miracle   
   >> > humans made it past the neanderthal.   
   >>   
   >> You consider all the time they are obligated to be in school not to be   
   >work?   
   >> KKKon$ervatives are STILL largely Neanderthals, despite their   
   >> noose-of-conformity neckties and spiffy suits!   
   >   
   >Ah...I hit another truth and you can only spew names calling again....   
   >   
   >>   
   >> >> Who fought against the concept of free public education?   
   >> >   
   >> > No one.  Free public education has been part of the US for many many   
   >> > years.   
   >> > We have had public schools since the 1800's   
   >> >   
   >> >   
   >> >> Who fought against the right of women to vote?   
   >> >   
   >> > Most Men.   
   >>   
   >> Not those you would call "liberal."   
   >   
   >Most men, liberal and not liberal....   
   >Cite your proof Liberal men (majority of them) helped women get the right to   
   >vote.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> >> Who fought against anti-trust and anti-monopoly legislation?   
   >> >   
   >> > People who were poor.   
   >>   
   >> Say what?   
   >> It was the monopolies and others that would have a bit less wealth and   
   >power   
   >> as a result, OBVIOUSLY!   
   >   
   >Liberals were the ones in most power then...Look at the Astor family.....   
   >   
   >>   
   >> >> Who fought against workers organizing?   
   >> >   
   >> > Business   
   >>   
   >> Backed by the KKKon$ervative politicians they bought.   
   >   
   >Yet again, names come from an intolerant liberl with no proof of his   
   >claims...   
   >   
   >>   
   >> >> Who fought against government controls on manufacturers of cars   
   >> >> "unsafe at any speed?"   
   >> >   
   >> > Morons....   
   >>   
   >> KKKon$ervatives with a vested interest in the deadly status quo.   
   >   
   >And again names as "proof".   
   >   
   >>   
   >> >> Who killed several thousand innocent civilians in the 9/11   
   >> >> terrorist attacks?   
   >> >   
   >> > A bunch of ragheads   
   >>   
   >> "Ragheads" in the white house?   
   >> I know - their suits and flags are only a disguise for covert Homeland   
   >> Terrorists.   
   >   
   >Cite your proof....Oh...you can't...cause you believe everything is a   
   >conspiracy....   
   >   
   >>   
   >> >> Who started WW2, murdered 13 million and caused the death of 40   
   >> >> million more?   
   >> >   
   >> > The world did by doing nothing as Hitler roase to power.   
   >>   
   >> Just as they did nothing when Bush, et al, did the same.   
   >   
   >LOL...you really need professiona help....   
   >   
   >>   
   >> >> CONSERVATIVES OR LIBERALS?   
   >> >   
   >> > Both and neither....Learn history   
   >> > The robber barons were LIBERALS.   
   >> > Getty, Morgan, Stanley, Rockerfeller....All Liberals....   
   >>   
   >> Look up the dictionary definition of LIBERAL and see how wrong you are.   
   >   
   >Uhn huh....   
   >look at the Kennedys and how they were bootleggers, then Big Businesss for   
   >their claims to fame....   
   >   
   >   
   >   
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