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   Message 4,323 of 4,706   
   Chuck Stamford to Mike Painter   
   Re: Beautiful!   
   09 Aug 08 00:01:05   
   
   XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.religion.christian.baptist   
   From: shell-stamford@cox.net   
      
   "Mike Painter"  wrote in message   
   news:Vp8nk.16633$xZ.3251@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com...   
   > Chuck Stamford wrote:   
   >> "Mike Painter"  wrote in message   
   >> news:7h7nk.16194$cW3.6902@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...   
   >>> Chuck Stamford wrote:   
   >>>   >>   
   >>>>> You mean you do not find it disturbing and quite inappropriate for   
   >>>>> Christ's brethren to fight and kill each other?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Christ's "brethern" were enjoined by their God and Lord to obey the   
   >>>> legitimate authorities over them, as all authority comes ultimately   
   >>>> from Him.  The fact men exercise this God given authority over one   
   >>>> another practically guarantees there will be conflicts.  Is there   
   >>>> something in any of this you find contradictory?   
   >>>   
   >>> Who decides which authority is right. That argument was used by   
   >>> kings and emporers for thousands of years with great success.   
   >>> If their authority comes from the same god(s) why is there no piece   
   >>> and why did kings loose power?   
   >>>   
   >>> Mark Twain's War Prayer sums it up nicely.   
   >>   
   >> Not familiar with much of Mark Twain's body of work beyond Tom   
   >> Sawyer.  I liked that story as a kid.  It was nice to see that some   
   >> kids, at least, got to have some fun.   
   >>   
   >> But I digress.  As to you question:   
   >>   
   >> "Who decides which authority is right."   
   >>   
   >> God does.  All I need to know, as a disciple of Jesus Christ, is that   
   >> the authority I'm following isn't an obvious enemy of the Gospel, or   
   >> isn't requiring me to do something that directly contradicts a   
   >> command of God as understood and interpreted by His Son, Jesus Christ.   
   >   
   > So, has everything been accomplished?   
   > Matthew 5:18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not   
   > the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means   
   > disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.   
      
   Not in the sense of Matthew 5:18, no.   
      
   >   
   > If not  you should be rooting for the Taliban who follow OT law with   
   > stoning for minor infractions.   
      
   Where did you get the idea the Taliban follows the OT??  The Taliban follows   
   a Scripture that says love your neighbor and kill the infidel wherever you   
   find them.   The Old Testament reminds the Jews they were strangers once,   
   and they should thus welcome the stranger who comes in peace, regardless of   
   the god he worships.   
      
   >   
   > If  yes then where specifically does this Christ tell you what laws should   
   > and shound not be obeyed.   
      
   Christ specifically gives us two laws to obey:   
      
   Jesus said to him, " 'You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart,   
   with all your soul, and with all your mind.' 38 "This is the first and great   
   commandment. 39 "And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as   
   yourself.' 40 "On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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