XPost: alt.christnet.christianlife, alt.religion.christian.baptist,   
   alt.religion.christian.biblestudy   
   From: veralein@lycos.com   
      
   In news:uzqqk.2995$xv4.2571@fe111.usenetserver.com,   
   vernono  typed:   
   > " ::: good news runner :::"  wrote in message   
   > news:6guhdpFhonpiU1@mid.individual.net...   
   >> In news:wsnqk.1235$Tb5.958@fe93.usenetserver.com,   
   >> vernono  typed:   
   >>> And the last thing Jesus said to the apostles in concert was to go   
   >>> get a sword, also if a group did not listen, give them the middle   
   >>> finger salute (shake your sandal).   
   >>>   
   >>> Too bad people can't read the entire bible and listen to what Jesus,   
   >>> The Christ, said to do after He left.   
   >>   
   >> You are talking about swords in a metaphorical way, but Jesus meant   
   >> the real swords that can hurt people's body. This here, however, is   
   >> about Spiritual things - opinions, thoughts, ideas... and it is   
   >> about TRUTH in the first instance.   
   >>   
   >   
   > No, I am talking about real swords and a pouch of money.   
   >   
   > Of course that doesn't chang live by the sword and die by the sword.   
   >   
   > And Jesus had compassion on several centurians.  These had probably   
   > killed tens or hundreds of people.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> To say it with Jesus...   
   >>   
   >> Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name   
   >> of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them   
   >> to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am   
   >> with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Matthew   
   >> 28:19-20 KJV) To say it with Paul...   
   >>   
   >> "I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who   
   >> shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;   
   >> Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove,   
   >> rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time   
   >> will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their   
   >> own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching   
   >> ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall   
   >> be turned unto fables. But watch thou in all things, endure   
   >> afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy   
   >> ministry. (2 Timothy 4:1-5 KJV) Put on the whole armour of God, that   
   >> ye may be able to stand against   
   >> the wiles of the devil. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,   
   >> but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of   
   >> the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high   
   >> places. Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may   
   >> be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.   
   >> Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having   
   >> on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the   
   >> preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of   
   >> faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of   
   >> the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the   
   >> Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and   
   >> supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all   
   >> perseverance and supplication for all saints; And for me, that   
   >> utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to   
   >> make known the mystery of the gospel, For which I am an ambassador   
   >> in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.   
   >> (Ephesians 6:11-20 KJV) In addition, I cannot see how your words   
   >> might fit to Chuck's   
   >> post... and whom you migth see getting a real sword...   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> But our sword is God's Word...   
   >>   
   >> Amen?   
   >>   
   >> --   
   >   
   > Yes, the word of God is a sword BUT Jesus talked of a real sword.   
   > Jesus didn't mince words.   
      
   No, He did not, so we agree. I thought you were talking of using a sword   
   in the newsgroups, which is not real but metaphorical. That was why I   
   asked how your post fit as a result to Chuck's post. Sorry, I   
   misunderstood. I do believe we can defend ourselves if we are attacked   
   physically. Many people in usenet confuse the Spiritual fighting with   
   the physical war or physical attacks. they even feel that posting   
   Scripture they do not like is an attack...   
      
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