From: krackula@i.am   
      
   thanks Guy ......  thats an interesting place.  you're right about   
   those radars , some of them can hurt you if you get in front of them.   
      
   I used to watch the techs explode pigeons in the rafters   
   ( for fun ) of the high bay buildings ( Redstone Arsenal ) with those   
   Nike  illuminator  radars. they'd aim it up into the rafters of the   
   wooden  storage / docking building and flick it on for a couple of   
   seconds   and " pow "   dust and feathers would rain down !   
      
   it'd be fun to get a better , up close, look at more of their   
   equipment.  friends told me that they had a laser communications   
   link beam aimed back down towards Groom Lake  but I can't imagine   
   how they'd get over those hills into the base, repeaters maybe.  I   
   checked out the place but didn't  detect  any laser  commo equipment   
   now. probably got rid of it for more modern satellite equipment, or   
   the  project was over etc. .   
      
   have you driven out to the base camp nuke explosion  ( faultless test   
   )  site, and if so  how was the road out there. I read it's 13 miles   
   long, off the paved road ,  to the sites.  could a 2 wd suv make it ok   
   ?    far  as I know it's probably the only publicly accessible test   
   site on the area51  region.  I'd like to take my equipment there and   
   look for collectibles ! ha ....   
      
      
   k   
      
      
      
   On 11 Nov 2005 23:48:00 -0800, miso@sushi.com wrote:   
      
   >That is Halligan Mesa. You can't get very close by the road, though the   
   >first no tresspasing sign is not valid. I spent a bit of time with the   
   >county assessor office (or maybe recorder, I forget) and the BLM. The   
   >USAF just owns the top of the hill. I don't recall what is at the 2nd   
   >no tresspassing sign, i.e. does it have a fence or not. Anyway, you   
   >could park and hike around the hill. I can't vouch how high the RF   
   >field is at the facility. In theory, they are suppose to fence off   
   >areas that exceed unsafe limits, but we are talking about the DOD. ;-)   
   >   
   >The first time I went to the Warm Spring repeater site, I took the   
   >wrong road. I parked beneath the site at a different repeater site   
   >(telco), then climbed the hill. It was about as steep as Tikaboo.   
   >Anyway, in the distance I heard gun shots, and in a minute or two I was   
   >joined by a herd of Big Horn sheep that decided to climb the same hill   
   >I was climbing. Fortunately, they kept their distance.   
   >   
   >Regarding the ULF, after reading the UWB manuals, I think a passive   
   >approach won't cut it. I have some ideas on active circuitry.   
   >   
   >Getting back to Haligan Mesa, if you look carefully at the terraserver   
   >images, you can see there is disturbed earth between Basecamp and   
   >Halligan Mesa. I suspect there is a cable buried there. In theory, an   
   >easement would be recorded, but we are talking about something between   
   >the BLM and the DOD, so maybe the county wouldn't have any records.   
   >   
   >   
   >   
   >krackula wrote:   
   >> miso ,   whats that big installation up on the high ground on the road   
   >> that  base camp is on ? have you ever been up there and gotten a   
   >> closer look ?   looks interesting from the railroad valley / base camp   
   >> road .   
   >>   
   >> on the dirt road to   lunar crater  to do some ULF emf measurements   
   >> and   
   >> tests , we came upon a huge herd of antelope  , probably 50 or more of   
   >> them. they were on that smooth dry lake bed  on the way in to the   
   >> crater.  they were beautiful.  awesome ......   
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   >> k   
      
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