On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:45:33 -0500, reply@grouponly.com wrote:   
      
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   > Mind if I chip in with a thought or two?   
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   >I believe that if we could've had dinner with the late James   
   >J. Angleton, and if we had asked him;   
   >>" What is the Cardinal Rule of counter-intelligence ?"   
   >   
   >He would have answered the following:   
   >>" If you are sitting on a park bench on a hot day, dreaming of an icecream   
   cone,   
   >> and a stranger walks up out of nowhere and says, 'I bought two icecream   
   cones   
   >> but my friend doesn't want his. Would you care for a icecream cone for   
   free?'   
   >> Then,...No matter how impossible or incredible it may seem - you're being   
   set up."   
   >   
   >Mixing a little truth with carefully planted lies designed to lead you away   
   from the "real"   
   >facts and towards a false conclusion is a good working definition of   
   disinformation.   
   >Your own curiosity or hunger for the few facts of BL's story are what makes   
   you   
   >vulnerable.   
   >   
   >Of course, hindsight is always 100%, hmmm? Now some people jumped all over BL   
   in   
   >support. So where are the follow-on Walk-ins, retired workers with a story to   
   tell, etc. ?   
   >All the ones who were encouraged by the attention and belief ( by some) that   
   BL got   
   >at first and so came forward over the years as it seems we can point to in   
   Roswell.   
   >In hindsight, the smart thing for the UFO community to have done with Lazar's   
   story   
   >would have been to ignore it. Completely. If Lazar is truthful this might've   
   provoked   
   >greater revelations ( and he should have those if he is truthful).   
   >   
   >But if it were Dis-info then his handlers would have to consider whether to   
   release more   
   >"truth" with even greater lies to achieve thier goals. Either that or leave   
   BL out in the cold.   
   >The first possibility would increase our real knowledge (assuming there's   
   something to know),   
   >the second would mean a dis-info mission had finally failed. That in itself   
   would be a huge victory   
   >for those who support the "Cosmic Watergate" theory that Stanton Freidman   
   advocates.   
   >   
   > Just my .02 cents worth,   
   >   
   > Andrew   
      
   " all that " ... plus I have additional experience with Bob   
   ( far removed from the alien stuff and area51 and I knew something   
   was " up " with Bob well before I heard about his area51 adventure.   
    ) that induced me to conclude that he and the government were "   
   pals " to an extent that he felt VERY protected. he felt   
   comfortable circumventing certain laws and regulations and had " no "   
   fear of getting in trouble doing what he was doing ! ( at a time when   
   others doing the same thing were literally shaking in their shoes )   
    I pointed this out to him , actually, and since he has changed his   
   ways related to what he was doing ( somewhat , at least hah aha ) .   
   Bob is a pretty good guy and ( to me ) an interesting , entertaining   
   person . That old area51 mess that he was associated with is so old   
   and tired, nowadays , that it's hardly worth rehashing over and   
   over again. it's been done to death by the best in the business and   
   no one ever got anywhere doing it. suffice it to say that if the "   
   government " wanted Bob they could have VERY easily had him by the   
   gonads many times. ( related to what I'm speaking about here )   
   since " they " didn't mess with him , and he brazenly did what he did   
   nationwide in front of god and everyone , I think says a lot ! it   
   doesn't necessarily require " direct " evidence to come to a correct   
   conclusion about Bob ! my advice would to be to " shine on "   
   the Lazar saucer saga and seek something more modern and reliable !   
   ( like a real chunk of a saucer !! ha ha ha ha an alien in the   
   hand is worth two on zork, etc )   
      
   It's an interesting story but alas just another episode of the "   
   Tehachapi Base " soap opera, I'm afraid !   
      
   just my twoooo cents worth as well !   
      
      
      
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