From: lumpy@digitalcartography.com   
      
   Dave Bethke wrote:   
   > It's possible that PYD and "Pyramid" have nothing to do with each   
   > other.  I tend to think that "Pyramid" is more a descriptive term   
   > used by controllers, much like, as it's been suggested, "Planet" is   
   > Mercury.   
      
   I'm listening to some audio of inbound Janets.   
   STING 12 - "14 thousand, field in sight"   
   TOWER - "Radar contact over PLANET,   
            Proceed PLANET to PYRAMID   
            expect visual to three-two"   
      
   I'm confused about the Janet pilot's phrase   
   "field in sight". If he's at Mercury, surely   
   GROOM is not "in sight". What is the term   
   "field in sight"? I always assumed that meant   
   "I can see the field I'm about to land at".   
   But he's at 14k. That seems consistant with   
   him being at Mercury.   
      
   And then just to spice it up, the pilot asks   
   if he can proceed "direct to where ABBIE's gonna be"   
      
   He's given permission to PLANET to ABBIE.   
      
   Later STING 12 is "Overhead that place" [sounds   
   like at ABBIE] and goes into standard left base   
   for RWY 32.   
      
   I'm not a pilot. I understand a little about   
   approaches. If he's in "standard left base" for   
   RWY 32, doesn't that mean he's perpindicular to   
   the runway?   
      
   And so if he's overhead at ABBIE and on a standard   
   left base for 32, would that put him somewhere like   
   papoose lake?   
      
      
   > I did do a little looking on Google Earth at what I think is about the   
   > Beatty 060030 point.  There's an interesting hill/mountain at 36 56   
   > 24.0N, 116 04 50.0W...   
      
   Here's one that is even closer to BTY060030   
   36 55 31.19n,116 13 10.73w   
      
   Mountain top, pair of quite tall towers,   
   power lines that terminate there. The towers   
   seem perhaps TOO tall for an NDB. That tower   
   site is within the 4808 airspace.   
      
   Here's another installation of some kind,   
   also within 4808   
   Lookout Peak at   
   36 51 20.08n,116 10 04.78w   
   Look due south from the building,   
   about 120 yds, on one of the   
   smaller roads. White, vehicle   
   sized(?) object on the road.   
   Maybe a rock. But it appears   
   to be right on the roadway.   
      
      
   Lumpy   
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