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   > was russian surface to air missiles but sounds like it might really   
   > have been something else possibly scuds or ?? wonder if you recognize   
   > that weapon or it's launcher ?   surely they weren't actually shooting   
   > at the training aircraft !!   ha ah ah hah a   
      
   The Rolands are the only threats I've seen close-up. They have two   
   launchers, though I don't know if they can launch two at a time.   
   Rolands are European in design.   
      
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