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   Farticus to All   
   Re: Area 51 on the map   
   06 Feb 07 02:52:56   
   
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   >   
   > krackula wrote:   
   > > On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:52:37 -0600, "Dave Bethke"   
   > >  wrote:   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > >"krackula >" < wrote   
   > > >   
   > > >> ................they kinda  look like an inverted   
   > > >> ice cream cone ( but huge )  with a buncha  little antennas around   
   the   
   > > >> base of the thing  (  a  kind of  directional or locator beacon   
   > > >> aircraft  stuff  )   on top of a small white building .........   
   > > >   
   > > >That sounds like a VOR (VHF Omni Range) station.  Not to many around   
   the   
   > > >ranges, at least civilian ones.  There's one at LAS on the field, right   
   near   
   > > >the intersection of the two sets of double runways. No doubt the AF   
   uses   
   > > >portable temporary ones for training.   
   > > >   
   > >   
   > > yep that's the ones ok !  typed  "  VHF Omni Range  " into Google   
   > > and they popped up.   
   > >   
   > > would a person be able to use an icom ic-a2  ( for example ) to find   
   > > those ?   don't have to read them or anything like that ,   just find   
   > > them if they are  transmitting  nearby ?  how far  away from those ,   
   > > on the ground , do you think a person could hear them  with something   
   > > like the ic-a2 ?  I'm guessing those are  ( if hearable with an a2 )   
   > > found on the bottom half  of the receiving freq  range  of the a2  ?   
   > > ( since I never seem to hear much down there ) .   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > also , have you ever played with those  Zoan MRX traffic ( air )   
   > > alerts  ( or similar gizmos )   that read the reflections off  "   
   > > illuminated "  transponders of in-flight aircraft  to see how  well   
   > > they did around on the  ground  ?  ( maybe for red flag  or on some of   
   > > those  UAVs ?  )   
   > > sometimes it'd be nice to know when possible photo opportunities   
   > > are about to happen so you could be ready to take a picture in time !   
   > > ha ha ha haha ha    frequently  they happen so fast , a person can't   
   > > get ready fast enough to get a picture off !  my camera shuts down if   
   > > I don't twiddle the controls or something every now and then ! it's   
   > > never ready when those " low and fast " runs are  thundering overhead   
   > > , it seems !  ( worse , I'M never ready ! )   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > thanks   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   > > >   
   >   
   > The ic-a2 will receive a VOR, but it can't track it. Other Icoms can   
   > demod the VOR:   
   > http://www.icomamerica.com/products/avionics/a24_a6/   
   >   
   > This is the one at basecamp:   
   > http://www.lazygranch.com/images/basecamp/vor1.jpg   
   >   
   > At this point, we know where all the VORs are on the range, so I   
   > wouldn't go out of my way to get a radio to demod a VOR. Groom has a   
   > VOR and one localizer. The TTR has a VOR and two localizers. The NDB   
   > locations are not known yet, though I think I know where the one at the   
   > TTR is located.   
   >   
      
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