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   > krackula wrote:   
   > > On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:52:37 -0600, "Dave Bethke"   
   > > wrote:   
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   > > >"krackula >" < wrote   
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   > > >> ................they kinda look like an inverted   
   > > >> ice cream cone ( but huge ) with a buncha little antennas around   
   the   
   > > >> base of the thing ( a kind of directional or locator beacon   
   > > >> aircraft stuff ) on top of a small white building .........   
   > > >   
   > > >That sounds like a VOR (VHF Omni Range) station. Not to many around   
   the   
   > > >ranges, at least civilian ones. There's one at LAS on the field, right   
   near   
   > > >the intersection of the two sets of double runways. No doubt the AF   
   uses   
   > > >portable temporary ones for training.   
   > > >   
   > >   
   > > yep that's the ones ok ! typed " VHF Omni Range " into Google   
   > > and they popped up.   
   > >   
   > > would a person be able to use an icom ic-a2 ( for example ) to find   
   > > those ? don't have to read them or anything like that , just find   
   > > them if they are transmitting nearby ? how far away from those ,   
   > > on the ground , do you think a person could hear them with something   
   > > like the ic-a2 ? I'm guessing those are ( if hearable with an a2 )   
   > > found on the bottom half of the receiving freq range of the a2 ?   
   > > ( since I never seem to hear much down there ) .   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > also , have you ever played with those Zoan MRX traffic ( air )   
   > > alerts ( or similar gizmos ) that read the reflections off "   
   > > illuminated " transponders of in-flight aircraft to see how well   
   > > they did around on the ground ? ( maybe for red flag or on some of   
   > > those UAVs ? )   
   > > sometimes it'd be nice to know when possible photo opportunities   
   > > are about to happen so you could be ready to take a picture in time !   
   > > ha ha ha haha ha frequently they happen so fast , a person can't   
   > > get ready fast enough to get a picture off ! my camera shuts down if   
   > > I don't twiddle the controls or something every now and then ! it's   
   > > never ready when those " low and fast " runs are thundering overhead   
   > > , it seems ! ( worse , I'M never ready ! )   
   > >   
   > >   
   > > thanks   
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   > The ic-a2 will receive a VOR, but it can't track it. Other Icoms can   
   > demod the VOR:   
   > http://www.icomamerica.com/products/avionics/a24_a6/   
   >   
   > This is the one at basecamp:   
   > http://www.lazygranch.com/images/basecamp/vor1.jpg   
   >   
   > At this point, we know where all the VORs are on the range, so I   
   > wouldn't go out of my way to get a radio to demod a VOR. Groom has a   
   > VOR and one localizer. The TTR has a VOR and two localizers. The NDB   
   > locations are not known yet, though I think I know where the one at the   
   > TTR is located.   
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