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   >I haven't heard any such rumors. To fly over commercial airspace with   
   >minimal ATC interference, you need to be above 60kft.   
      
   the two times I've heard it,  it seemed to be extremely high in alt   
   and the guys over  in the valley said the same thing.  the spiral con   
   trail  aircraft are usually  so high ,  people have to  use   large   
   telescopes to look for them.   
      
      
   Still, there is   
   >high altitude ATC on the usual freqs. I'm always skeptical of reports   
   >of military testing that isn't over MOAs or SUA.   
      
   I think they said it was just traveling  overhead , out to the ocean.   
   probably the testing / training  taking  place out there . many dozens   
   of military  flights  from inland ( fallon , colorado springs ..? )   
   out to the ocean training and testing ranges  and back ,  through the   
   corridor I mentioned ,  happen each  month.   
     it's been a routine thing for over a decade that I know of,   
   probably much longer.  it's the same route ( to water ) that the   
   Lamoore NAS uses and many inland  air bases as well.  flights from   
   Lamoore are seen to join up with some of the flights from inland , on   
   towards the pacific  areas.   it's  the least  congested  air route to   
   the open  ocean  from Nv , lower  Utah, Colo , Mojave and many places   
   east of the Sierras  and  for some the most direct route.   
      
   the odd sounding aircraft has been absent for about a week and a half   
   , so far ....... but you never know.     anyway ...... keep an eye out   
   for it ....  maybe you'll be lucky enough to be there when it's out   
   and about !   
      
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