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   krackula@i.am to All   
   Re: Dulce, New Mexico revisited - questi   
   02 Apr 07 19:11:58   
   
   On 2 Apr 2007 09:31:35 -0700, "Area51watch"    
   wrote:   
      
   >I was hesitant to post the following item on this group, but, what the   
   >heck, it is an interesting read.  Here it  comes:   
   >   
   >Dulce, New Mexico Revisited - Questions remain   
   >   
   >March 28, 2007   
   >   
   >DULCE, NEW MEXICO  -  On Sunday, March 25, I finally arrived at Dulce,   
   >New Mexico once again, after more than 17 years.  It was a long drive   
   >from Los Angeles but it was definitely a worthwhile trip.  The last   
   >time that I was at this strange little town was in March of 1990.   
   >   
   >I will never forget that 1990 visit when I first brought a Japanese TV   
   >crew, incredible as it may sound, to document an alleged existence of   
   >an "underground U.S./alien joint bio-lab" which was rumored to exist   
   >deep under the Archuleta Mesa, adjacent to Dulce.  While interviewing   
   >many Jicarilla Apache locals on the street at that visit, we were   
   >inexplicably detained by the then Police Chief, Hoyt Velarde and kept   
   >at his office for almost an hour and a half, during which time he had   
   >meticulously taken down our personal info, i.e., our ID's, driver's   
   >licence numbers and, in my case, even my Soc. Sec. number, if I recall   
   >correctly.  It was a shock to us then.  We had asked him if we were   
   >doing anything illegal by interviewing the people, the question to   
   >which he never responded.  I clearly remember that just before he   
   >released us, he told us in a rather warning tone: "Don't you ever ask   
   >any more questions regarding such a base.  I have nothing to do with   
   >it and I do not want to talk about it!"  An enigmatic answer,   
   >indeed.   That was in March of 1990.   
   >   
   >Now here I am once again, in Dulce.  It brought me back lots of   
   >memories of 1990.  However, this time, as soon as I drove in to Dulce,   
   >I immediately noticed that it had completely changed since 1990.   
   >It seems to have grown quite a lot, not so much in terms of   
   >population, but in terms of its physical appearance.  There are now so   
   >many new buildings, large and small and many modern local community   
   >facilites  -  a brand new Middle School, a brand new High School, a   
   >new Students' Athletic Complex, brand new Police and Maintenance   
   >Center, a modern Emergency Medical Service facility, and on the south   
   >side, a brand new Student's Residential Complex, and, of course, a   
   >newly refurbished Best Western Hotel, all in the small community of   
   >less than 3500 residents.   
   >Yes, it has been many years, so it would seem natural for some growth   
   >to take place.   
   >   
   >When I interviewed the locals in 1990, I clearly remember that almost   
   >every one of them had testified to us that in the late 70's and the   
   >early 80's, they had frequently observed strange lights in the sky,   
   >especially flying over and around, and even appearing to disappear   
   >into the sides of the Mesa.  They even testified to us that they also   
   >frequently observed military helicopters over Dulce, along with   
   >reports of cattle mutilations in the ranches nearby.  Those were the   
   >things we heard back then when we were in Dulce in 1990.   
   >   
   >To my great surprise, sightings still seem to continue in and around   
   >Dulce, even now!!   
   >Incredible as it may be, even recent sightings of what many describe   
   >as "Bigfoot" along the Navajo River is also a fairly new topic of   
   >conversation in Dulce now.   
   >   
   >I was so fortunate this time to personally get to know a friendly   
   >family who lives in the northwest area of the town.  I had gotten to   
   >know the husband while I was attending a symposium in Aztec the   
   >weekend before.  During my three days of stay in Dulce this time, I   
   >have obtained many new, fascinating sighting reports from many locals   
   >again, particularly from the family that I just mentioned and their   
   >relatives.   
   >   
   >On my second day of stay in Dulce, this family invited me to their   
   >residence for a great meal.  They had also invited their relatives who   
   >were willing to describe to me in detail many strange experiences they   
   >have had and even are having now.   
   >It was assuring to know that the family that I befriended were   
   >immediate relatives of high officials of the Jicarilla Apache tribe.   
   >The husband was a son of the former head of the Police Department   
   >(before Hoyt Velarde).  His wife is an immediate family of the head of   
   >the Jicarilla Apache tribal council.  His sister-in-law has been a   
   >Dulce Police dispatcher.   For this reason, I will refrain from naming   
   >any individuals to protect their privacy.   
   >   
   >My friend's wife told me of a fairly recent incident whereby a huge,   
   >silent delta-shaped dark object emitting extremely bright lights   
   >slowly passed over a group of 50 to 75 (all their relatives) on a mesa   
   >where they were celebrating a traditional Jicarilla Apache feast   
   >called the "coming out" feast, a "puberty" celebration for young boys   
   >and girls (similar to the Spanish quinceanera celebration).  The huge   
   >object appeared after sundown, an hour or so after their traditional   
   >meals had ended and after the shamans had completed their chantings   
   >and dances.  They were simply stunned to see the huge triangular   
   >'craft' hovering only about 100 feet above the campground.  The entire   
   >area lit up like daylight.  What was more amazing was that after a few   
   >minutes of hovering over the area, it suddenly took off with a   
   >tremendous gust of wind.  Pots and pans were flying all over.  Some of   
   >the people were almost thrown off their vehicles.  Fortunately, no one   
   >was injured.  Panic spread.  The generators failed to re-start and all   
   >battery-operated appliances malfunctioned, including the car radios.   
   >   
   >Another recent incident they recounted was a daytime sighting of a   
   >silver, saucer-shaped object at around 11 a.m., which hovered for 30   
   >minutes right next to Hwy 537, not too far from the junction of U.S.   
   >64, north of La Jara Lake.   
   >   
   >One relative also recounted a recent, unforgettable sighting of a   
   >huge, flying "triangle" near Hwy 537, near J-30 (Jicrailla Road, #30),   
   >with some type of a "cloaking device" that almost appeared to have a   
   >transparent body.  The object was described to have been close to half-   
   >a-mile in length!!   
   >   
   >The biggest and most impressive sighting, however, took place in May   
   >of 2004 when several families were celebrating together the feast on a   
   >Jicarilla Apache campground, located at an area near J-33 and J-40,   
   >right near the Continental Divide.  Incredibly, it involved hundreds   
   >(not just one or two objects) of brilliant objects in the night sky.   
      
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