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   From: lumpy@digitalcartography.com   
      
   miso@sushi.com wrote:   
      
   > I haven't poked around there, but my understanding is China Lake to   
   > some degree is like the Navy's Area 51. They have a RCS too. It   
   > border's Death Valley, so you better have a dependable ride if you   
   > snoop from the north.   
      
   You can drive into it from near Manson's old place.   
   I've seen RV'rs camping at the abandoned airstrip/   
   RR grade just inside the North border.   
   You'd be on the top of a hill overlooking most   
   of what's happening.   
      
   They used to give tours. Don't know if they still do.   
   At least they openly exist and describe what they do.   
   No doubt there are things they do that aren't quite   
   so public. But I think they're a little more like   
   the NTS than A-51.   
      
   Somebody is beaconing APRS packets as "AREA51"   
   today. Here's the raw packet -   
      
   Position of AREA51 --- 155.1 miles northwest of   
   North Las Vegas, NV --- Report received   
   8 minutes 40 seconds ago Altitude: 7600 feet   
      
   Raw packet:   
   AREA51>APNU19,BISHOP,COREY,SLIDE*,WIDE5-1,qAR,KB7PUX:!3811.52NS1   
   625.05W#PHG7700/W4,NVn,   
   Info: w7xz@arrl.net A=007600   
      
   Just a little north of Warm Springs, SR 375 and US 6.   
      
   Here it is on the findu map -   
   http://www.findu.com/cgi-bin/find.cgi?call=area51&terra=4   
      
      
   Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke   
      
   www.n0eq.com   
      
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