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|    Lumpy to miso@sushi.com    |
|    China Lake - Manson's Place    |
|    16 Dec 08 19:30:59    |
      4bd204d5       From: lumpy@digitalcartography.com              miso@sushi.com wrote:       > I have a book on Death Valley. The Mason ranch is supposed to be a       > pretty nasty drive. I think I will do it only if I can get another 4WD       > to follow.              To get up into Barker Ranch (Manson's old place)       you have to negotiate a relatively rough canyon.       I've done it in a 2wd Chev S-10 pickup and in a       '56 VW bus. Probably easier in 4wd or motorcycle.              Barker ranch is at -        N35° 51.575'       W117° 05.331'              The sheriff was up there last summer doing forensic       searches with cadaver dogs and sniffer instruments       after they heard reports of more bodies buried there.       That probably means they improved the road a bit.       The 4x4 clubs and the NPS seem to fight over who       should have and not have access. Both of them       will deliberately knock boulders into the       roadway to make it more difficult to travel.              The die hard 4 wheelers continue on east from       Barker ranch and take the REALLY rough and steep       route down into Death Valley, entering the valley       from the west rim.              But to enter China Lake, you can just stay on       the main dirt road (Wingate Road) and drive south.       You could do it in a family sedan.       Border at -        N35° 47.72'       W117° 08.73'              North is county/BLM/NPS depending on where you're at.       South is China lake.              The RVs sometimes camp at -        N35° 44.846'       W117° 01.643'       Which is the abandoned airfield. It's on the grade       of the abandoned mining train track bed.              The whole area is pretty populated with tourists       in 4x4s, RVs and family/road motorcycle clubs on BMWs       and Goldwings.                     Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke              www.n0eq.com              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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