From: emoneyjoe@iglou.com   
      
   On Thu, 2 Jun 2011 23:41:32 -0700, "Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke"   
    wrote:   
      
   >emoneyjoe wrote:   
   >>            I think all the stories   
   >> of fallout over area51 somehow got   
   >> exaggerated into bomb stories.   
   >   
   >Point, obviously, is that there weren't 100 nukes   
   >anywhere. And zero at area 51.   
   >   
   >Great investigative reporting.   
   >   
   >Notwithstanding the bit about how the base, apparently   
   >operating in 1947, received Russian juvenile spacecraft   
   >pilots.   
   >   
   >"Information never before made public before my book"   
   >   
   >Lump   
      
             It is easy to see the book author was a _little_   
   clueless, but I don't know what you mean by not   
   100 nukes.   
      
            Are you separating the atomic from the nuclear,   
   wiki says there was well over 1,000 all together, but   
   apparently many if not most were underground (or   
   in the Pacific, and one or more in space).   
      
            I visited my Aunt in North Las Vegas in 1963 and   
   her husband drove up the highway every morning,   
   I knew he was a tunnel man, and no telling which way   
   or how far the tunnels went or how deep they were.   
      
            I worked in a foundry in 1954 making compressor   
   blades with screw thread shanks in a building payed for   
   by the AEC, the blades were for a rather large turbine   
   compressor for that era, and there was some talk of   
   an atomic powered airplane, but we didn't have any   
   blueprints or plans of the engine, just a section of   
   both the rotor and stator to see if the blades fit   
   properly.   
      
           I don't remember what year, but I new an   
   engineer at NASA that said he was working   
   running a jet engine in a wind tunnel that produced   
   way over 100 decibels and his ears were bothering him.   
      
           I have wondered if the compressor was for an   
   airplane or just an air mover for ventilating a tunnel   
   or building.   
      
            The Ben Rich book says that Kelly Johnson   
   had a pilot look for a place to test the U-2 in 1954,   
   and there was nothing at the dry lake then, but   
   the government built a hanger and runway in   
   a short time to start flight testing in 1955, but   
   the book is so self inconsistent I have no faith   
   in any of the dates.   
      
            I recently saw images of a model of the   
   SR-71/A-12 being tested on a radar test range   
   and the caption said area51 in the 1950s, but   
   there was no model of either until late in 1959,   
   and Ben Rich said Lockheed had no radar   
   range even by 1980.   
      
            Either there is intentional misinformation   
   or really bad memory by some.   
      
             I can document that I invented stealth   
   shapes in the 1975-1976 time frame and   
   wrote about the way to implement it in May   
   of 1977, but Russian engineers or mis-figured   
   children pilots  had nothing to do with it.   
      
            In 1947 Russia had nothing that could have   
   placed any kind of craft in New Mexico airspace.   
      
            Books are written to sell, but some authors   
   seem to think BS sells better than facts.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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