From: geowright1963@gmail.com   
      
   On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 7:21:37 AM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:   
   > On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 11:34:52 PM UTC-4, Chuck Schuyler wrote:   
   > > Didn't some of the Parkland doctors get a chance on the PBS program NOVA   
   in 1988 to review the autopsy photos and confirm the wounds essentially were   
   the same as what they saw when they were trying to save JFK's life at the   
   hospital?   
   > Are these the same doctors ?   
      
   The trailer stated "They have not deviated from what the observed 60 years   
   ago" so I thought it   
   would be interesting to see what they had to say 60 years ago. Here are a   
   couple accounts as   
   testified to under oath before the Warren Commission:   
      
   Dr. Robert McClelland, instructor of surgery:   
   Mr. SPECTER - What did you observe as to President Kennedy's condition at that   
   time?   
   Dr. McCLELLAND - Well, on initially coming into the room and inspecting him   
   from a distance of only 2 or 3 feet as I put on a pair of surgical gloves, it   
   was obvious that he had sustained a probably mortal head injury, and that his   
   face was extremely    
   swollen and suffused with blood appeared cyanotic   
   Mr. SPECTER - "Cyanotic"---may I interrupt-just what do you mean by that in   
   lay terms?   
   Dr. McCLELLAND - This mean bluish discoloration, bluish-black discoloration of   
   the tissue. The eyes were somewhat protuberant, which is usually seen after   
   massive head injuries denoting increased intracranial pressure, and it seemed   
   that he perhaps was    
   not making, at the time at least, spontaneous respiratory movements, but was   
   receiving artificial respiration from a machine, an anesthesia machine.   
   Mr. SPECTER - Who was operating that machine?   
   Dr. McCLELLAND - The machine---there was a changeover, just as I came in, one   
   of the doctors in the room, I don't recall which one, had been operating what   
   we call an intermittent positive pressure breathing machine.   
   Mr. SPECTER - Had that machine been utilized prior to your arrival?   
   Dr. McCLELLAND - It was in use as I arrived, yes, and about the same time I   
   arrived----this would be one other doctor who came in the room that I forgot   
   about----Dr. Jenkins, M. T. Jenkins, professor of anesthesiology, came into   
   the room with a larger    
   anesthesia machine, which is a better type machine with which to maintain   
   control of respiration, and this was then attached to the tube in the   
   President's tracheotom; anyway, respiratory movements were being made for him   
   with these two machines, which    
   were in the process of being changed when I came in.   
   Then, as I took my post to help with the tracheotomy, I was standing at the   
   end of the stretcher on which the President was lying, immediately at his   
   head, for purposes of holding a tracheotom, or a retractory in the neck line.   
   Mr. SPECTER - What did you observe, if anything, as to the status of the neck   
   wound when you first arrived?   
   Dr. McCLELLAND - The neck wound, when I first arrived, was at this time   
   converted into a tracheotomy incision. The skin incision had been made by Dr.   
   Perry, and he told me---although I did not see that---that he had made the   
   incision through a very small,   
    perhaps less than one quarter inch in diameter wound in the neck.   
   Mr. SPECTER - Do you recall whether he described it any more precisely than   
   that?   
   Dr. McCLELLAND - He did not at that time.   
   Mr. SPECTER - Has he ever described it any more precisely for you?   
   Dr. McCLELLAND - He has since that time.   
   Mr. SPECTER - And what description has he given of it since that time?   
   Dr. McCLELLAND - As well as I can recall, the description that he gave was   
   essentially as I have just described, that it was a very small injury, with   
   clear cut, although somewhat irregular margins of less than a quarter inch in   
   diameter, with minimal    
   tissue damage surrounding it on the skin.   
   Mr. SPECTER - Now, was there anything left for you to observe of that bullet   
   wound, or had the incision obliterated it?   
   Dr. McCLELLAND - The incision had obliterated it, essentially, the skin   
   portion, that is.   
   Mr. SPECTER - Before proceeding to describe what you did in connection with   
   the tracheostomy, will you more fully describe your observation with respect   
   to the head wound?   
   Dr. McCLELLAND - As I took the position at the head of the table that I have   
   already described, to help out with the tracheotomy, I was in such a position   
   that I could very closely examine the head wound, and I noted that the right   
   posterior portion of    
   the skull had been extremely blasted. It had been shattered, apparently, by   
   the force of the shot so that the parietal bone was protruded up through the   
   scalp and seemed to be fractured almost along its right posterior half, as   
   well as some of the    
   occipital bone being fractured in its lateral haft, and this sprung open the   
   bones that I mentioned in such a way that you could actually look down into   
   the skull cavity itself and see that probably a third or so, at least, of the   
   brain tissue, posterior    
   cerebral tissue and some of the cerebellar tissue had been blasted out. There   
   was a large amount of bleeding which was occurring mainly from the large   
   venous channels in the skull which had been blasted open.   
      
   His description of the head wound is perfectly compatible with the autopsy   
   finding that the   
   head wound was chiefly parietal, extending somewhat into the occipital and   
   tempora regions.   
      
   Dr. Kenneth Salyer, neurosurgical resident on duty that day:   
   Mr. SPECTER - What was the President's condition at the time you arrived?   
   Dr. SALYER - It was critical.   
   Mr. SPECTER - What did you observe about him with respect to any wounds he may   
   have sustained?   
   Dr. SALYER - Well, I observed that he did have some sucking wound of some type   
   on his neck, and that he also had a wound of his right temporal region--these   
   were the two main wounds.   
   Mr. SPECTER - Did you have an opportunity to observe his throat?   
   Dr. SALYER - No; I really did not. I think there were a lot of people--a lot   
   of doctors more closely around him. I might mention also, I think just right   
   after I came in the room Dr. Clark and Dr. Grossman also arrived.   
      
   The temporal bone is on the side of the head, basically the area around the   
   ear. That is where we   
   see the skull flap in the Z-film after Z313.   
      
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