From: hsienzant@aol.com   
      
   On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 7:33:46 PM UTC-4, Gil Jesus wrote:   
   > On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 7:03:59 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com   
   wrote:    
   > > It's definitely a lower case "k." He left an example of his upper case    
   > > "S" just below with "Sears." Also, notice that the "a" in "army" and the    
   > > "m" in "map" are lower case. It makes no sense that he would write    
   > > it like "army map Service"   
   > What is an army map kervis ?    
   > Go smoke your fucking dope and let people who know the case present it.    
   > Loser.    
   >    
   > Oswald's timesheets showed that eight times in his tenure at JCS, Oswald did   
   work for the Army Map Service ( AMS ).    
   > ( Oct. 16, Nov. 10, Nov. 22, and Dec. 1, 6, and 29 in 1962 and on Feb. 14   
   and March 25 in 1963 ) ( 23 H 530- 614 )    
   >    
   > His supervisor ( Graef ) said that the work they did for the AMS was secret   
   ( 10 H 191 ) and that Oswald had nothing to do with it. The owner of JCS (   
   Stovall ) verified it. ( 10 H 169 )    
      
   No, Stovall clarified it. He said some of that work was secret, confidential,   
   or classified, but “most of it is not”.   
      
   Most of it is not.    
      
   Stop assuming what you need to prove.   
      
      
   > Oswald's timesheets proved they both lied.    
      
   No, you are assuming ALL the work was secret, confidential, or classified.   
   You haven’t shown that, and Stovall’s testimony establishes they did work   
   for the AMS that was not secret, confidential, nor classified.   
   == quote ==    
   > > Mr. JENNER. Is it secret or confidential work or classified work of any   
   kind?    
   > > Mr. STOVALL. On occasion we do. Most of it is not…    
   == unquote ==    
      
   “Most of it is not…”    
      
      
   >    
   > Not only did the timesheets prove that Graef and Stovall lied, a Document   
   released by the CIA in 1998 under the JFK Records Act    
   > included an interview that author/researcher Edward Jay Epstein did with New   
   York Magazine in 1978.    
   >    
   > In that interview, Epstein said that JCS, "was involved with highly   
   classified work for the Army Map Service. It received long lists of names of   
   cities in the Soviet Union, China and Cuba which were typeset    
   > and then returned to the Army Map Service, where they were affixed to maps.   
   THESE MAPS WERE MADE BY AMERICA'S SPY SATELLITES AND U-2 SPY PLANES. Oswald   
   thus had access to lots of cities    
   > that were US Intellignece targets in Russia, Cuba and China." ( NARA #   
   104-10404-10390, pg. 3 )    
   >    
      
   So you’re citing unsourced hearsay from Epstein as evidence. Next.   
      
   And that wasn’t all that JCS did, as Stovall testified. There was work for   
   the AMS that didn’t fall under the umbrella of secret, confidential, or   
   classified. And Bowen’s comments were the maps (not *aerial photos*) were   
   labeled in Russian, which    
   would eliminate photos from U.S spy satellites entirely (unless you think that   
   the Russians had big signs next to each of their cities labeled in Russian, so   
   that the US could read city’s names from their spy satellites).   
      
   You think that? I hope not. So explain the contradiction between what Epstein   
   claims, and Bowen’s assertion that the maps (not *aerial photos*) were   
   labeled in Russian. You treat statements that are contradictory as   
   confirmation. That makes no sense.   
      
      
   > Epstein also said that when he and his investgators interviewed the form's   
   former employees, they found that, ALL workers there, including Oswald, had   
   access to ALL parts of the plant. Security    
   > procedures were not strongly enforced." ( ibid. )    
      
   Ok, so if that’s true, then the fault lies with JCS, and doesn’t indicate   
   a conspiracy or coverup of any kind (except for JCS’s failure to enforce the   
   procedures they most likely said they would abide by in a contract they signed   
   with the    
   government).    
      
      
   >    
   > Graef and Stovall lied to the Warren Commission because they were afraid if   
   the government found out that their security measures were lax, they'd lose   
   their government contracts.    
      
   If your assumptions are true. But that has nothing to do with the   
   assassination of JFK, and doesn’t establish a conspiracy.   
      
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