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   recipient.x@gmail.com to Gil Jesus   
   Re: Questions for the self-proclaimed "m   
   05 Nov 23 17:19:02   
   
   From: recip...@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, November 5, 2023 at 3:50:09 AM UTC-6, Gil Jesus wrote:   
   > On Saturday, November 4, 2023 at 8:54:50 PM UTC-4, recip...@gmail.com   
   wrote:    
   > >   
   > > That is, the "secret U-2 work" consisted of making little name tags and   
   handing them back to the Army.    
   > >    
   > > And you think that this is somehow super-sensitive?   
   >   
   > During the Cuban Missile Crisis, ALL government work involving Cuba was   
   super-sensitive, as was work involving America's enemies Russia and China,   
   moron.    
   > Of course, in your world, name tags of landmarks or cities that the US might   
   target in the event of an attack would not be considered super-sensitive.    
   > How much do you think Castro would pay to know what those nametags said ?    
      
   Neither you nor Epstein have presented any evidence that JCS did any work for   
   anyone   
   specifically pertaining to the Cuban Missile Crisis. Or even Cuba in general.   
   And Oswald    
   didn't start at JCS until 1963, anyway. So your point is moot.    
      
       
   > Apparently, the US Army Map Service thought the work was sensitve, they   
   created the standard for security that JCS didn't follow.    
   > Apparently, the JCS employees that Epstein interviewed and the bosses at JCS   
   thought so, too.    
   > What's deemed sensitive doesn't go by YOUR standards, it goes by the   
   standards of the government.    
      
   There is no guarantee that all of the work JCS did for the military was    
   classified, nor do we know what classification level any particular job    
   was. The president of JCS, Stovall, said that most of their government/   
   military work not classified, so Oswald certainly could have done work    
   for any government agency, including the Army Map Service, that was   
   not classified of secret at all.    
        
   The Government audits security clearances granted to vendors. Not just   
   to specific employees, but to the organization as a whole. If JCS were that   
   lackadaisical about security, they'd have been caught, and either forced to    
   conform or just loose the classified business. Either way, we would have   
   known about it by now.   
      
      
   > If you have a problem with that, take it up with them.    
   >    
   > MR JENNER. Does Jaggers-Childs-Stovall do any highly secret work of any   
   character or highly confidential work ?    
   > MR GRAEF. Yes, Yes; we do some work for, I think, the Army Map Service.    
   >    
   > They apparently thought the work was so super-senstiive that the supervisor   
   and the company owner lied to the Warren Commission about Oswald's access to   
   it.    
      
   Or they didn't lie, and Epstein was just wrong.   
      
      
   > MR JENNER. Would he have had any contact with that ?    
   > MR GRAEF No.    
   > ( 1 H 191 )    
   >    
   > MR JENNER. So anything that is classified is done only by employees of yours   
   who have been cleared by a Federal agency ?    
   > MR STOVALL. Yes, sir.    
   > MR JENNER. And then, I gather that as far as Lee Harvey Oswald is concerned,   
   he had no part in it NOR ACCESS TO ANY OF THIS WORK ?    
   > MR STOVALL. THIS IS CORRECT.   
   > ( 10 H 169 )   
   > Oswald timesheets proved they lied. Oswald and everyone in that building had   
   access to that work. Epstein corroborated those timesheets and the CIA   
   withheld that information from both the Warren Commission and the HSCA. And   
   the bosses at JCS lied to    
   the Commission because they were afraid if the government found out their   
   security was below its requirements, they'd lose their government contracts.   
      
   Epstein didn't work at JCS, and therefore could not corroborate anything.   
      
      
   > > You're even dumber than I thought.   
   > You see a "K" where there is no K and you're calling me dumb ?    
   > ROFLMAO    
      
   Because it is a lowercase letter "k." Apparently, you're too dumb to figure    
   out your ABCs.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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