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   Message 98,210 of 99,700   
   Donald Willis to JE Corbett   
   Re: Ted Callaway and the "55 feet"--Geni   
   21 Nov 23 09:06:05   
   
   From: willisdonald824@gmail.com   
      
   On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 10:05:07 PM UTC-8, JE Corbett wrote:   
   > On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 12:41:04 AM UTC-5, recip...@gmail.com   
   wrote:    
   > > On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 11:05:10 PM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:    
   > > > Ted Callaway and the "55 feet"--Genius!    
   > > >    
   > > > Mr. Dulles: [The suspect] was going south on Patton?    
   > > > Ted Callaway: On the WEST [emphasis added] side of the street.    
   > > > Rep. Ford: You saw him run from about the taxicab [at 10th & Patton]...    
   > > > Callaway: Across the street, up this sidewalk. (v3p353)    
   > > >    
   > > > Sam Guinyard: [The suspect] come down Patton until he got to five feet   
   from the corner of Jefferson and then he went across to the west corner on   
   Jefferson.    
   > > > Mr. Ball: What side of the street did you see him coming down on?    
   > > > Guinyard: When he come down... it would be the EAST [emphasis added]   
   side. (v7p397)    
   > > >    
   > > > This west side/east side conundrum I always found curious, though not   
   quite compelling, as apparently most everyone else has also found it, or it   
   would have been brought up more often. Just a simple mix-up.    
   > > >    
   > > > However, in looking at it more closely, I can't quite envision how such   
   a contretemps could happen. Callaway and Guinyard were both on the east side   
   of the street. Guinyard testifies that the gunman got to "about 10 feet from   
   me" (p398). But--four    
   times--Callaway testifies that the gunman crossed the street, early on, near   
   Patton (v3p353). I think Ball got the point, thank you. Callaway "figured [the   
   man] was about 55 feet from him when he passed." (v7p398) Supposedly, the two   
   were near the east    
   sidewalk at the same time, and saw the same man. (Guinyard: "We was together"   
   [p398].)    
   > > >    
   > > > At 10 feet, Callaway, certainly, could have identified the type of gun,   
   simply by its look--revolver or automatic. But at 55 feet, Callaway says that   
   he could tell the type of gun only by the way the man held it--in the "raised   
   pistol position...[   
   with] his left hand going toward the butt of the gun, like the way you'd load   
   an automatic." (With Malice p78) It was apparently he who told DPD Patrolman   
   Summers that the man was "apparently armed with a 32 dark finish automatic   
   pistol." (DPD radio-log    
   transcription/CE 1974 p74)    
   > > >    
   > > > At 55 feet, that was apparently just a wild, wrong guess. But Guinyard   
   clung to his "east side" version, even when counsel informed him re Callaway's   
   version: "Well," he maintained, "[the gunman] crossed over after he crossed   
   the driveway" (p398),    
   which was more than two-thirds of the block, on Patton, from 10th. (In his   
   diagram, Myers has Callaway at the north end of that driveway--before the   
   crossover point described by Guinyard ([WMp83].) Yes, according to Guinyard,   
   then, Callaway would also,    
   at one point, have been just about 10 feet from the man.    
   > > >    
   > > > We see which witness that counsel Joseph Ball favored, in this   
   gentleman's disagreement, when the latter invokes Callaway's "55 feet" during   
   Guinyard's testimony. Hint, hint. Guinyard must have been a little   
   disconcerted by Callaway's reported    
   witnessing here. Even after Guinyard says "east side" (p397), Ball tries to   
   correct Guinyard's "mistake": "And [Oswald] was across the street from you,   
   wasn't he?" Guinyard: "No, we was on this side of the street." Ball: "He was   
   on the east side of the    
   street?" Ah! Guinyard: "Yes, sir. And he was on the east side of the street   
   until he got across our driveway." (p398)    
   > > >    
   > > > The Ball monkey wrench fails. His leading-the-witness favoritism   
   backfires and--along with Guinyard's plucky persistence in the face of a   
   determined lawyer and possible backlash from his boss, Callaway--tips the   
   scales the other way. What would    
   Guinyard have to gain, anyway, by sabotaging Callaway's reloading scenario? At   
   one point, he too endorses a "pistol up" image, but not Callaway's   
   left-hand-towards-the-gun-butt reloading. Guinyard has the gunman *unloading*,   
   not reloading. In fact,    
   Guinyard testifies, "I never did see him use his left hand" (v7p397). But it   
   all comes back to "10 feet"... If the Callaway version were correct, why would   
   Guinyard have to be, shall we say, weaned off "55 feet" and reloading? No   
   logical reason.    
   > > >    
   > > > However, plenty of reason to have Callaway weaned off "10 feet", if that   
   were the correct version. "10 feet" makes the weapon an automatic. I'm not   
   saying that Callaway was in any way leaned on--he always seemed happy to   
   assist the police. Witness    
   his superfluous call re the Tippit shooting on the latter's police radio, and   
   the Great Car Chase with Scoggins. That "dark finish automatic pistol" had to   
   be neutralized. Did Callaway change his story in order to help nail Oswald?   
   Different definitions    
   of "good citizen" may come into play here...    
   > > >    
   > > > And all Callaway had to do was to go to the other side of the street,   
   or, more precisely, have the gunman go to the other side. And if he was   
   willing to do that in order to help out, he might also have been glad to ID   
   Oswald as the east side/west    
   side gunman. And it certainly would have bolstered the government's case if   
   the latter somewhat resembled Oswald, who, after all--Callaway may have been   
   reminded--murdered the President.    
   > > >    
   > > > But why the startling lack of coordination between the respective   
   testimonies of Callaway and Guinyard? How could Ball, that is, have blundered   
   into his "And he was across the street from you, wasn't he?", as if he, Ball,   
   knew the answer and was    
   expecting Guinyard just to confirm it. He put himself, and Callaway, out on a   
   limb, and Guinyard cut it off. Ball must have been pissed. It's as if much   
   thought had gone into developing Callaway's story, and Guinyard had been   
   neglected until showtime. Or    
   the Guinyard version had been developed in a vacuum, by some moron unfamiliar   
   with what was going on with Callaway, Benavides, and the Davises. In any   
   event, Ball is left lying, rather bruised, on the ground. But the Patton   
   Street train wreck, or timber    
   wreck, is instructive in its glimpse into the behind-the-scenes workings of   
   the wheels of "justice".    
   > > >    
      
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