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   Message 98,277 of 99,700   
   Donald Willis to recip...@gmail.com   
   Re: Ted Callaway and the "55 feet"--Geni   
   23 Nov 23 09:05:29   
   
   From: willisdonald824@gmail.com   
      
   On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 1:32:09 PM UTC-8, recip...@gmail.com   
   wrote:   
   > On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 1:46:03 PM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:    
   > > On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 8:14:31 AM UTC-8, recip...@gmail.com   
   wrote:    
   > > > On Tuesday, November 21, 2023 at 11:04:52 AM UTC-6, Donald Willis   
   wrote:    
   > > > > On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 9:41:04 PM UTC-8, recip...@gmail.com   
   wrote:    
   > > > > > On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 11:05:10 PM UTC-6, Donald Willis   
   wrote:    
   > > > > > > Ted Callaway and the "55 feet"--Genius!    
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > Mr. Dulles: [The suspect] was going south on Patton?    
   > > > > > > Ted Callaway: On the WEST [emphasis added] side of the street.    
   > > > > > > Rep. Ford: You saw him run from about the taxicab [at 10th &   
   Patton]...    
   > > > > > > Callaway: Across the street, up this sidewalk. (v3p353)    
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > Sam Guinyard: [The suspect] come down Patton until he got to five   
   feet from the corner of Jefferson and then he went across to the west corner   
   on Jefferson.    
   > > > > > > Mr. Ball: What side of the street did you see him coming down on?    
   > > > > > > Guinyard: When he come down... it would be the EAST [emphasis   
   added] side. (v7p397)    
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > This west side/east side conundrum I always found curious, though   
   not quite compelling, as apparently most everyone else has also found it, or   
   it would have been brought up more often. Just a simple mix-up.    
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > However, in looking at it more closely, I can't quite envision how   
   such a contretemps could happen. Callaway and Guinyard were both on the east   
   side of the street. Guinyard testifies that the gunman got to "about 10 feet   
   from me" (p398). But--   
   four times--Callaway testifies that the gunman crossed the street, early on,   
   near Patton (v3p353). I think Ball got the point, thank you. Callaway "figured   
   [the man] was about 55 feet from him when he passed." (v7p398) Supposedly, the   
   two were near the    
   east sidewalk at the same time, and saw the same man. (Guinyard: "We was   
   together" [p398].)    
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > At 10 feet, Callaway, certainly, could have identified the type of   
   gun, simply by its look--revolver or automatic. But at 55 feet, Callaway says   
   that he could tell the type of gun only by the way the man held it--in the   
   "raised pistol    
   position...[with] his left hand going toward the butt of the gun, like the way   
   you'd load an automatic." (With Malice p78) It was apparently he who told DPD   
   Patrolman Summers that the man was "apparently armed with a 32 dark finish   
   automatic pistol." (   
   DPD radio-log transcription/CE 1974 p74)    
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > At 55 feet, that was apparently just a wild, wrong guess. But   
   Guinyard clung to his "east side" version, even when counsel informed him re   
   Callaway's version: "Well," he maintained, "[the gunman] crossed over after he   
   crossed the driveway" (   
   p398), which was more than two-thirds of the block, on Patton, from 10th. (In   
   his diagram, Myers has Callaway at the north end of that driveway--before the   
   crossover point described by Guinyard ([WMp83].) Yes, according to Guinyard,   
   then, Callaway would    
   also, at one point, have been just about 10 feet from the man.    
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > We see which witness that counsel Joseph Ball favored, in this   
   gentleman's disagreement, when the latter invokes Callaway's "55 feet" during   
   Guinyard's testimony. Hint, hint. Guinyard must have been a little   
   disconcerted by Callaway's    
   reported witnessing here. Even after Guinyard says "east side" (p397), Ball   
   tries to correct Guinyard's "mistake": "And [Oswald] was across the street   
   from you, wasn't he?" Guinyard: "No, we was on this side of the street." Ball:   
   "He was on the east side    
   of the street?" Ah! Guinyard: "Yes, sir. And he was on the east side of the   
   street until he got across our driveway." (p398)    
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > The Ball monkey wrench fails. His leading-the-witness favoritism   
   backfires and--along with Guinyard's plucky persistence in the face of a   
   determined lawyer and possible backlash from his boss, Callaway--tips the   
   scales the other way. What    
   would Guinyard have to gain, anyway, by sabotaging Callaway's reloading   
   scenario? At one point, he too endorses a "pistol up" image, but not   
   Callaway's left-hand-towards-the-gun-butt reloading. Guinyard has the gunman   
   *unloading*, not reloading. In fact,    
   Guinyard testifies, "I never did see him use his left hand" (v7p397). But it   
   all comes back to "10 feet"... If the Callaway version were correct, why would   
   Guinyard have to be, shall we say, weaned off "55 feet" and reloading? No   
   logical reason.    
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > However, plenty of reason to have Callaway weaned off "10 feet",   
   if that were the correct version. "10 feet" makes the weapon an automatic. I'm   
   not saying that Callaway was in any way leaned on--he always seemed happy to   
   assist the police.    
   Witness his superfluous call re the Tippit shooting on the latter's police   
   radio, and the Great Car Chase with Scoggins. That "dark finish automatic   
   pistol" had to be neutralized. Did Callaway change his story in order to help   
   nail Oswald? Different    
   definitions of "good citizen" may come into play here...    
   > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > And all Callaway had to do was to go to the other side of the   
   street, or, more precisely, have the gunman go to the other side. And if he   
   was willing to do that in order to help out, he might also have been glad to   
   ID Oswald as the east side/   
   west side gunman. And it certainly would have bolstered the government's case   
   if the latter somewhat resembled Oswald, who, after all--Callaway may have   
   been reminded--murdered the President.    
   > > > > > >    
      
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