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|    Hank Sienzant to NoTrueFlags Here    |
|    Re: "Historically Guilty" Is An Arbitrar    |
|    23 Nov 23 09:16:33    |
      From: hsienzant@aol.com              On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:24:47 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:       > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:19:37 AM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:        > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:02:11 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here       wrote:        > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 10:45:32 AM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant       wrote:        > > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 1:24:47 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here       wrote:        > > > > > On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 11:44:59 PM UTC-5, Hank       Sienzant wrote:        > > > > > > On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 2:27:33 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags       Here wrote:        > > > > > > > It really doesn't mean anything other than the Official Story is       that a person is guilty. Of course, the Nutter Retards are going to believe       the Official Story verdict, but that's all it is. The rulers say Oswald did       it. Everybody knows        that.        > > > > > > What’s the “the Official Story verdict” on who was the Texas       Tower shooter?        > > > > > > Do you believe “the Official Story verdict” there?        > > > > > > If so, why? Isn’t that what ‘they’ want you to believe?        > > > > > >        > > > > > > If not, are you posting to the Texas Tower site that Whitman was       framed, and those who believe the the Official Story verdict are ignorant       sheeple and just believing their rulers?        > > > > > > If not, why not?        > > > > > I don't know anything about Your Texas Tower Massacre.        > > > > Of course not. Since it happened in Texas only three years after the       Kennedy assassination and involved an ex-Marine with similar shooting skills       to Oswald shooting with a bolt-action rifle from a much higher building at       people who were far more        distant than Kennedy was from Oswald, we can’t learn anything about the       assassination or whether Oswald and Oswald’s weapon was capable of       committing the assassination.        > > > >        > > > > You want to stick with that answer or phone a friend for help?        > > > > > I'm talking about the JFK assassination because that is the topic       which interests me, and the topic of this newsgrouppe. Your logical fallacy       that Official Stories all need to be false for this one to be false        > > > > Straw-man Logical Fallacy. I never said that.        > > > > > only reveals your fundamental dishonesty.        > > > > The “fundamental dishonesty” is from those who employ logical       fallacies like straw-man arguments to make a pretend rebuttal to a point not       made.        > > > > > Everybody knows what a cowardly liar you are.        > > > > And there’s the ad hominem instead of a reasoned response.        > > > >        > > > > Summary: You argued against a point I didn’t make, called me names,       and claimed the similarities and differences between the JFK assassination and       the Texas Tower shooting didn’t interest you, dismissing any attempt of mine       to draw parallels        between the two and extract what we could learn from these parallels.        > > > >        > > > > How CT of you.        > > > Sure, you'd rather talk about something that happened 3 years later        > > Another straw man argument. I want to talk about both, and see what we can       learn, if anything, from another shooting in Texas by an ex-Marine with       similar shooting skills to Oswald shooting with a bolt-action rifle from a       much higher building at        people who were far more distant than Kennedy was from Oswald. You apparently       don’t want to talk about that, or learn anything from it.        > >        > > Do I understand your point correctly?        > > > because you can't defend your ridiculous Lone Nut theories.        > > Please be explicit and specific about what I said that you deem       ridiculous.        > > Go ahead, we’ll wait.       > I don't care about your true crime analogy because Oswald did not shoot any       rifle from the TSBD.               “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” — Carl Sagan.       Awaiting your extraordinary evidence. Go ahead, we’ll wait.                     > Why should I argue that he could or couldn't have done what he obviously did       not do?               Begged Question Logical Fallacy. You need to establish that, not simply       proclaim it as a given.                      > You are trying to have an argument with somebody else. I don't know who and       I don't care who.               No, I'm trying to have a discussion with you about what the evidence       establishes about the Kennedy assassination. You keep ducking out of that       discussion, yet you claim to be interested in the Kennedy assassination       (”I'm talking about the JFK        assassination because that is the topic which interests me”). I've said we       can learn something about Oswald’s rifle capabilities from the Charles       Whitman* Texas Tower shooting, and despite claiming Oswald was a shooter (and       deserving of the death        penalty, no less), you don't want to talk about that other shooting, or what       we can learn from it.                     > That's something for you and your psychiatrist to work out.              And there’s the ad hominem we knew you couldn't wait to utter. Why not just       cut to the chase and simply call me names?              ________       * Do you accept that Charles Whitman IS the Texas Tower shooter, or do you       reserve judgment and want to insist he is presumed innocent (like Gil and       Robert Johnson) because he was never convicted in a trial?              Gil: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/8JGtKyYuij       /m/QyFRel1NAAAJ       Robert: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/JsKjTsn       Fes/m/n3T6e3AMCAAJ              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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