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   On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 3:43:44 AM UTC-6, Gil Jesus wrote:   
   > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 12:27:19 AM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:   
   > > CTs like to argue that ER doctors in a big city hospital would likely have   
   lots of    
   > > experience treating victims of gunshot wounds and that much is true. It   
   does    
   > > not follow that they would be able to distinguish an entrance wound from   
   an exit wound.   
      
   > Source ?   
      
   Back in the early 1990s, JAMA published a study by Vince DiMaio, CME of Bexar   
   county Texas (ie, San Antonio) regarding the accuracy of ER staff at   
   identifying   
   entry and exit wounds. It should be noted that DiMaio is the guy who literally   
   wrote the book on GSWs --it's even titled "Gunshot Wounds: Practical Aspects   
   of    
   Firearms, Ballistics, and Forensic Techniques."   
      
   DiMaio and his co-authors found that ER staff could correctly identify entry   
   and    
   exit about 67% of the time in single-shot cases, and 50% in multiple-shot   
   cases.   
   If this sounds good to you, consider that they had a binary choice --entry or   
   exit--   
   and would be expected to achieve 50% accuracy just by flipping a coin.   
       
      
   > > It is therefore not surprising that the ER team would believe the neat   
   round    
   > > bullet hole in JFK's throat was an entrance wound because they likely had    
   > > little to no experience with exit wound produced by FMJ bullets.   
   >   
   > Really ? Did any of these doctors serve in the military during World War II   
   ?    
   > Was WWII fought with soft rounds fired from handguns ?    
   > They "had little to no experience with exit wounds produced by FMJ bullets"   
   ?    
   > Wanna try that again ?    
      
   Only Shaw and Gregory served as physicians during WWII. Shaw was the head   
   of a rear-area specialist surgery center in Paris, well behind the front   
   lines.    
   Gregory did a second stint with the Navy during the Korean War, supporting the    
   1st Marine Division, which would have made it either a field hospital   
   position,    
   or the next level behind that. Of the two, Gregory would have wound up with   
   more experience directly treating GSWs. It shows in the record. Shaw initially    
   thought that the bullet that fractured Connally's radius went from the palm   
   side    
   to the dorsal side. Gregory was able to set Shaw straight, as Shaw himself    
   admitted.    
       
       
   > You claim that Governor Connally's wounds were made by CE 399, a FMJ bullet.    
   >    
   > Did these doctors who you claim "had little to no experience with exit   
   wounds produced by FMJ bullets" correctly identify    
   > the entrance and exit wounds on Governor Connally ?    
      
   Shaw got the chest right and the wrist wrong. Then again, the chest wound    
   was pretty obvious. Gregory got the wrist wound right. Shires and Gregory    
   got the thigh wound right, but that was a gimme. There was only one thigh    
   wound, so it could only have been the entry. Shaw, however, assumed that    
   there was a bullet still in the thigh, which he announced at his part in the    
   Parkland press conference. This turned out to not be true. So Shaw only    
   gets a 1.5 out of 3 score.   
      
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