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   On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 12:33:23 PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:   
   > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 12:28:42 PM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here   
   wrote:    
   > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 12:16:35 PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant   
   wrote:    
   > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:24:47 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here   
   wrote:    
   > > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:19:37 AM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant   
   wrote:    
   > > > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:02:11 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags   
   Here wrote:    
   > > > > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 10:45:32 AM UTC-5, Hank   
   Sienzant wrote:    
   > > > > > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 1:24:47 AM UTC-5,   
   NoTrueFlags Here wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 11:44:59 PM UTC-5, Hank   
   Sienzant wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 2:27:33 AM UTC-5,   
   NoTrueFlags Here wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > > > It really doesn't mean anything other than the Official   
   Story is that a person is guilty. Of course, the Nutter Retards are going to   
   believe the Official Story verdict, but that's all it is. The rulers say   
   Oswald did it. Everybody    
   knows that.    
   > > > > > > > > > What’s the “the Official Story verdict” on who was the   
   Texas Tower shooter?    
   > > > > > > > > > Do you believe “the Official Story verdict” there?    
   > > > > > > > > > If so, why? Isn’t that what ‘they’ want you to   
   believe?    
   > > > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > > > If not, are you posting to the Texas Tower site that Whitman   
   was framed, and those who believe the the Official Story verdict are ignorant   
   sheeple and just believing their rulers?    
   > > > > > > > > > If not, why not?    
   > > > > > > > > I don't know anything about Your Texas Tower Massacre.    
   > > > > > > > Of course not. Since it happened in Texas only three years after   
   the Kennedy assassination and involved an ex-Marine with similar shooting   
   skills to Oswald shooting with a bolt-action rifle from a much higher building   
   at people who were far    
   more distant than Kennedy was from Oswald, we can’t learn anything about the   
   assassination or whether Oswald and Oswald’s weapon was capable of   
   committing the assassination.    
   > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > You want to stick with that answer or phone a friend for help?    
   > > > > > > > > I'm talking about the JFK assassination because that is the   
   topic which interests me, and the topic of this newsgrouppe. Your logical   
   fallacy that Official Stories all need to be false for this one to be false    
   > > > > > > > Straw-man Logical Fallacy. I never said that.    
   > > > > > > > > only reveals your fundamental dishonesty.    
   > > > > > > > The “fundamental dishonesty” is from those who employ   
   logical fallacies like straw-man arguments to make a pretend rebuttal to a   
   point not made.    
   > > > > > > > > Everybody knows what a cowardly liar you are.    
   > > > > > > > And there’s the ad hominem instead of a reasoned response.    
   > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > Summary: You argued against a point I didn’t make, called me   
   names, and claimed the similarities and differences between the JFK   
   assassination and the Texas Tower shooting didn’t interest you, dismissing   
   any attempt of mine to draw    
   parallels between the two and extract what we could learn from these   
   parallels.    
   > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > How CT of you.    
   > > > > > > Sure, you'd rather talk about something that happened 3 years   
   later    
   > > > > > Another straw man argument. I want to talk about both, and see what   
   we can learn, if anything, from another shooting in Texas by an ex-Marine with   
   similar shooting skills to Oswald shooting with a bolt-action rifle from a   
   much higher building    
   at people who were far more distant than Kennedy was from Oswald. You   
   apparently don’t want to talk about that, or learn anything from it.    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > Do I understand your point correctly?    
   > > > > > > because you can't defend your ridiculous Lone Nut theories.    
   > > > > > Please be explicit and specific about what I said that you deem   
   ridiculous.    
   > > > > > Go ahead, we’ll wait.    
   > > > > I don't care about your true crime analogy because Oswald did not   
   shoot any rifle from the TSBD.    
   > > > “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” — Carl   
   Sagan.    
   > > > Awaiting your extraordinary evidence. Go ahead, we’ll wait.    
   > > > > Why should I argue that he could or couldn't have done what he   
   obviously did not do?    
   > > > Begged Question Logical Fallacy. You need to establish that, not simply   
   proclaim it as a given.    
   > > > > You are trying to have an argument with somebody else. I don't know   
   who and I don't care who.    
   > > > No, I'm trying to have a discussion with you about what the evidence   
   establishes about the Kennedy assassination. You keep ducking out of that   
   discussion, yet you claim to be interested in the Kennedy assassination   
   (”I'm talking about the JFK    
   assassination because that is the topic which interests me”). I've said we   
   can learn something about Oswald’s rifle capabilities from the Charles   
   Whitman* Texas Tower shooting, and despite claiming Oswald was a shooter (and   
   deserving of the death    
   penalty, no less), you don't want to talk about that other shooting, or what   
   we can learn from it.    
   > > > > That's something for you and your psychiatrist to work out.    
   > > > And there’s the ad hominem we knew you couldn't wait to utter. Why not   
   just cut to the chase and simply call me names?    
   > > >    
   > > > ________    
   > > > * Do you accept that Charles Whitman IS the Texas Tower shooter, or do   
   you reserve judgment and want to insist he is presumed innocent (like Gil and   
   Robert Johnson) because he was never convicted in a trial?    
   > > >    
   > > > Gil: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/8JGt   
   yYuijk/m/QyFRel1NAAAJ    
   > > > Robert: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/J   
   KjTsn3Fes/m/n3T6e3AMCAAJ    
   > > Well, you are insane and dishonest and you defend murderers, so I should   
   call you a Nutter Shit Bag, Nutter Shit Bag.   
   > The ones defending murders are those who claim a trial and guilty verdict is   
   necessary before we can judge Charles Whitman guilty of being the Texas Tower   
   shooter, or Harris and Klebold guilty of being the Columbine school shooters.    
   >    
   > Folks like Gil and Robert Johnson.    
   >    
   > You know, conspiracy theorists.   
      
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