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|    Hank Sienzant to NoTrueFlags Here    |
|    Re: "Historically Guilty" Is An Arbitrar    |
|    26 Nov 23 13:55:27    |
      From: hsienzant@aol.com              On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 12:09:02 PM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here wrote:       > On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 11:57:32 AM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:        > > On Sunday, November 26, 2023 at 10:51:42 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags Here       wrote:        > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 12:33:23 PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant       wrote:        > > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 12:28:42 PM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags       Here wrote:        > > > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 12:16:35 PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant       wrote:        > > > > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:24:47 AM UTC-5, NoTrueFlags       Here wrote:        > > > > > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:19:37 AM UTC-5, Hank       Sienzant wrote:        > > > > > > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:02:11 AM UTC-5,       NoTrueFlags Here wrote:        > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 10:45:32 AM UTC-5, Hank       Sienzant wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 1:24:47 AM UTC-5,       NoTrueFlags Here wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 11:44:59 PM UTC-5,       Hank Sienzant wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, November 20, 2023 at 2:27:33 AM UTC-5,       NoTrueFlags Here wrote:        > > > > > > > > > > > > > It really doesn't mean anything other than the       Official Story is that a person is guilty. Of course, the Nutter Retards are       going to believe the Official Story verdict, but that's all it is. The rulers       say Oswald did it.        Everybody knows that.        > > > > > > > > > > > > What’s the “the Official Story verdict” on who       was the Texas Tower shooter?        > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you believe “the Official Story verdict” there?        > > > > > > > > > > > > If so, why? Isn’t that what ‘they’ want you to       believe?        > > > > > > > > > > > >        > > > > > > > > > > > > If not, are you posting to the Texas Tower site that       Whitman was framed, and those who believe the the Official Story verdict are       ignorant sheeple and just believing their rulers?        > > > > > > > > > > > > If not, why not?        > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know anything about Your Texas Tower Massacre.        > > > > > > > > > > Of course not. Since it happened in Texas only three years       after the Kennedy assassination and involved an ex-Marine with similar       shooting skills to Oswald shooting with a bolt-action rifle from a much higher       building at people who        were far more distant than Kennedy was from Oswald, we can’t learn anything       about the assassination or whether Oswald and Oswald’s weapon was capable of       committing the assassination.        > > > > > > > > > >        > > > > > > > > > > You want to stick with that answer or phone a friend for       help?        > > > > > > > > > > > I'm talking about the JFK assassination because that is       the topic which interests me, and the topic of this newsgrouppe. Your logical       fallacy that Official Stories all need to be false for this one to be false        > > > > > > > > > > Straw-man Logical Fallacy. I never said that.        > > > > > > > > > > > only reveals your fundamental dishonesty.        > > > > > > > > > > The “fundamental dishonesty” is from those who employ       logical fallacies like straw-man arguments to make a pretend rebuttal to a       point not made.        > > > > > > > > > > > Everybody knows what a cowardly liar you are.        > > > > > > > > > > And there’s the ad hominem instead of a reasoned       response.        > > > > > > > > > >        > > > > > > > > > > Summary: You argued against a point I didn’t make,       called me names, and claimed the similarities and differences between the JFK       assassination and the Texas Tower shooting didn’t interest you, dismissing       any attempt of mine to        draw parallels between the two and extract what we could learn from these       parallels.        > > > > > > > > > >        > > > > > > > > > > How CT of you.        > > > > > > > > > Sure, you'd rather talk about something that happened 3       years later        > > > > > > > > Another straw man argument. I want to talk about both, and see       what we can learn, if anything, from another shooting in Texas by an ex-Marine       with similar shooting skills to Oswald shooting with a bolt-action rifle from       a much higher        building at people who were far more distant than Kennedy was from Oswald. You       apparently don’t want to talk about that, or learn anything from it.        > > > > > > > >        > > > > > > > > Do I understand your point correctly?        > > > > > > > > > because you can't defend your ridiculous Lone Nut theories.        > > > > > > > > Please be explicit and specific about what I said that you       deem ridiculous.        > > > > > > > > Go ahead, we’ll wait.        > > > > > > > I don't care about your true crime analogy because Oswald did       not shoot any rifle from the TSBD.        > > > > > > “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” — Carl       Sagan.        > > > > > > Awaiting your extraordinary evidence. Go ahead, we’ll wait.        > > > > > > > Why should I argue that he could or couldn't have done what he       obviously did not do?        > > > > > > Begged Question Logical Fallacy. You need to establish that, not       simply proclaim it as a given.        > > > > > > > You are trying to have an argument with somebody else. I don't       know who and I don't care who.        > > > > > > No, I'm trying to have a discussion with you about what the       evidence establishes about the Kennedy assassination. You keep ducking out of       that discussion, yet you claim to be interested in the Kennedy assassination       (”I'm talking about the        JFK assassination because that is the topic which interests me”). I've said       we can learn something about Oswald’s rifle capabilities from the Charles       Whitman* Texas Tower shooting, and despite claiming Oswald was a shooter (and       deserving of the death        penalty, no less), you don't want to talk about that other shooting, or what       we can learn from it.        > > > > > > > That's something for you and your psychiatrist to work out.        > > > > > > And there’s the ad hominem we knew you couldn't wait to utter.       Why not just cut to the chase and simply call me names?        > > > > > >        > > > > > > ________        > > > > > > * Do you accept that Charles Whitman IS the Texas Tower shooter,       or do you reserve judgment and want to insist he is presumed innocent (like       Gil and Robert Johnson) because he was never convicted in a trial?        > > > > > >        > > > > > > Gil: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/       /8JGtKyYuijk/m/QyFRel1NAAAJ        > > > > > > Robert: https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.j       k/c/JsKjTsn3Fes/m/n3T6e3AMCAAJ               [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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