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|    Gil Jesus to Hank Sienzant    |
|    Re: Reason # 2 why I believe the governm    |
|    30 Nov 23 10:54:10    |
      From: gjjmail1202@gmail.com              On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 1:16:56 PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:              > Was he biased? He was concerned enough about Oswald’s rights that he made       a trip to the jail to visit Oswald and talk to him:        >        > “By that time I had time to think about what I thought my obligation       should be, and realizing that under the circumstances maybe some people might       overlook the fact that Oswald had rights that needed to be protected at the       same time, and if he didn't        have a lawyer, regardless of what the legal obligation was to appoint him a       lawyer, we, the bar association, ought to look into the matter.”        > He said he went to the jail and visited with Oswald of his own volition.        >        > “It seemed like enough time had gone by, and enough uncertainty among the       people I talked to as to whether or not he had a lawyer or had asked for a       lawyer that I decided I might as well go up and talk to him, so, I cleaned up       and went on up to the        city hall. That was probably 5:30 or so in the afternoon.”              Hank, you are the biggest bullshit artist here.              District Attorney Henry Wade had been under pressure from lawyers regarding       the treatment of Oswald.        One of the issues was Oswald’s repeated public claims that he was not being       allowed legal representation.              In Dallas, there were two bar associations: The Dallas Bar Association and the       Criminal Bar Association.              On Saturday, the 23rd, one of the attorneys who were pressuring Wade contacted       H. Louis Nichols, President of the Dallas Bar Association to request that he       look into whether or not Oswald had legal representation, wanted legal       representation or wanted it        but had been denied of it.              Nichols response was to call Henry Wade on the phone and make an inquiry. ( 7       H 327 )              Nichols testified before the Warren Commission that Wade told him that as far       as he knew Oswald had not asked for any lawyer so Nichols asked Wade to give       Oswald a message that the Dallas Bar Association would provide him with a       lawyer if he needed one.        According to Nichols, Wade said he’d pass the message onto his assistants       and if Oswald ASKED for a lawyer, Nichols offer would be given to him. ( ibid.       )              Of course, the reason why Wade’s response was a lie is that Oswald HAD been       requesting a lawyer from the time of his arrest, including the evening before       during the “Midnight Press Conference”.              After thinking it over, Nichols decided that he and a member of the criminal       bar association should visit and talk with Oswald. But according to Nichols,       he couldn’t get a member of the criminal bar to go with him.              To have a civil lawyer go in to question Oswald alone was a joke.              A civil lawyer would never ask the right questions: Was he being              beaten?              starved?              deprived of sleep?              isolated from his friends and family?              denied counsel?              In addition, according to his own testimony, Nichols was “connected” to       the Dallas Police and the City of Dallas.              Nichols used to work for the city attorney’s office, and at the time of       Oswald’s incarceration, still represented the city credit union and had a       brother on the police force, so, he had known many of these city authorities       for years. ( 7 H 327 )              Nichols calls the police station              Still trying to avoid personally talking to Oswald in person, Nichols then       called one of those people, Capt. Glen King of the DPD to ask if Oswald had a       lawyer:              “Captain King said that as far as he knew there had been no one representing       him, and as far as he knew, Oswald had not asked for a lawyer. He had not       asked for the right to call a lawyer, and had not asked that a lawyer be       furnished to him—” (        ibid. )              Now, keep in mind that King said this on the afternoon of Saturday, the 23rd,       AFTER Oswald had made a public plea the night before for “someone to come       forward to give me legal assistance” and AFTER he appeared in the 2:30 pm       lineup viewed by William        Whaley, who testified:              “He showed no respect for the policemen, he told them what he thought about       them. They knew what they were doing and they were trying to railroad him and       he wanted his lawyer.” ( 2 H 261 )              Nichols attempted to avoid becoming involved by asking Capt. King to deliver a       message to Oswald:              I said, “Well, Glen, if you know at any time that he asks for a lawyer, or       wants a lawyer, or needs a lawyer, will you tell him that you have talked to       me, as president of the bar association, and that I have offered to get him a       lawyer if he wants one.       ” ( 7 H 327 )              Capt. King offered Nichols the chance to talk to Oswald but Nichols       “didn’t know whether I wanted to or not at this point”.              I didn’t know to what extent I would, or wanted to, or should become       embroiled in the facts. I wanted to know whether he needed a lawyer, and I       didn’t anticipate that I would be his lawyer, because I don’t practice       criminal law. ( ibid. pg. 331 )              However, Nichols WAS PRESSURED INTO GOING BY A LAW PROFESSOR FROM SMU.              “I then received a call from another lawyer who was a professor out at       S.M.U. and he wanted to know whether or not the bar association was doing       anything about getting a lawyer for Oswald. I told him what had transpired,       what I had done, and I hadn’t        decided what should be done at this time, if anything by me, as president of       the bar association.              He seemed to think that it would be advisable and would be helpful if I would       go up and satisfy myself personally as to whether or not Oswald had any       lawyer, wanted a lawyer or was asking for a lawyer and hadn’t been able to       get one, and I told him        that I had not decided what to do, so, I sat around and decided if it had to       be done.              It seemed like enough time had gone by, and enough uncertainty among the       people I talked to as to whether or not he had a lawyer or had asked for a       lawyer that I decided I might as well go up and talk to him, so, I cleaned up       and went on up to the city        hall. That was probably 5:30 or so in the afternoon.” ( ibid. pgs. 327-328 )              Nichols’ reluctance to become involved in the issue caused the SMU professor       to light a fire under his butt as if to say, “It’s been over 24 hours       since his arrest and he hasn’t asked for an attorney yet ?”              Something doesn’t sound right.              Forced to go                     [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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