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   On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 12:41:36 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:   
   > On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 9:36:06 PM UTC-8, NoTrueFlags Here   
   wrote:    
   > > On Thursday, November 30, 2023 at 5:13:31 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:    
   > > > On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 11:41:24 PM UTC-8, NoTrueFlags Here   
   wrote:    
   > > > > On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 5:03:08 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis   
   wrote:    
   > > > > > DPD Ruses, Part II: Sgt. "Slowmo" Hill takes some 15 minutes to get   
   from one window to the next    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > Why would Sgt. Hill stick his head out a sixth-floor window and   
   shout re discovering shells some 10-to-15 minutes after Mooney had found them?   
   He testified that--just after the finding of the shells--"I asked the deputies   
   again to guard the    
   scene". Next, he testifies, he did his cry out the next window, bumped into   
   Capt. Fritz, and ran downstairs "to make sure that the crime lab was en   
   route". "About the time I got to the street, Lt. Day from the crime lab was   
   arriving." (v7p47)    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > Now, let's see if the summoned Day arrived at the depository as   
   promptly as Hill suggests... Lt. Day: "Shortly before 1 o'clock I received a   
   call from the police dispatcher to go to 411 Elm Street, Dallas... I arrived   
   at the location on Elm    
   about 1:12." (v4p249) In the time, then, that it took for Day to take the call   
   and then travel from city hall to Dealey, Hill went from the sixth floor to   
   the front of the building. Talk about out-of-sync--a 10-minutes-plus gap   
   between Mooney's cry,    
   circa 12:58, and Hill's own. Note how Day's "shortly before 1 o'clock" echoes   
   Deputy Mooney's "approaching 1 o'clock" as the time that the latter found the   
   hulls. (v3p285)    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > Adjusting the timeline:    
   > > > > > Vincent Bugliosi pegs Hill's shout at 1:06 ("Four Days in November",   
   p116), but even Hill disputes that.    
   > > > > > According to Hill, he shouts from the 6th floor about 1:10 (just   
   before, that is, Day arrives)    
   > > > > > At 1:11, Sawyer radios re the 5th/3rd floor. (The Warren Report very   
   mistakenly uses the time of Sawyer's transmission as the source for its   
   "approximately 1:12pm" shell find. [p79] The time gap between Mooney's shout   
   and Sawyer's transmission    
   suggests that Sawyer may indeed have still been upstairs at 1 o'clock.)    
   > > > > > Hill's shout, then, had to have come after 1:11, or Sawyer would   
   have hung fire, caught as he was between Hill's "6th floor" and his own   
   information re "5th/3rd floor".    
   > > > > > Out front, at 1:12, testifies Hill, he told both Day and Sawyer   
   about "shots... fired from... the sixth floor" (v7p47). But Hill could not   
   have been in two places at once--upstairs, that is, shouting, as early as   
   1:12, and, downstairs, talking    
   to Day and Sawyer, again about 1:12. And Sawyer would have countered Hill's   
   tale with his own, but Hill fails to mention such an exchange. Meanwhile, Day   
   testifies that he was "directed to the sixth floor" by Sawyer. Not by Sawyer   
   he wasn't--not around    
   this time, (a) not having heard from Hill re the sixth floor and (b) having   
   himself just radioed re the "3rd floor". Hill's alert had to have come after   
   1:12. And Sawyer, it seems, would have directed Day to a different floor.    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > Just as the time of Sawyer's entry into the building had to keep   
   getting pushed later and later, the timing of Hill's shout, too, has to keep   
   getting pushed ever later. On YouTube, "No True Flags Here" says that the time   
   of Hill's shout cannot    
   be pinpointed. However, it can be fairly accurately estimated, and in fact   
   was--by those redoubtable DPD Homicide boys, Dets. Sims and Boyd. They write   
   that the "empty hulls were found about 1:15." (Sims/Boyd report p2) Whence did   
   they get that time?    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > They cite Mooney, but we know that that time was not from Mooney.   
   (The DPD radio logs confirm Mooney's "approaching 1 o'clock": At 12:58, Sgt.   
   Harkness radios, "Give us the Crime Lab station wagon down to the TSBD" [CE   
   1974 p41]) Nor was it    
   from Sawyer--his transmission was on the radio at 1:11. Where did Sims and   
   Boyd get "about 1:15"? Where? Yes!--although that could hardly have been the   
   time that the shells were found, it could have been "about" the time that...   
   fellow-officer Hill    
   shouted. Yes!--Hill is Mr. "About 1:15". He's about the only possibility left,   
   after Mooney, Bugliosi's phantom source, and Sawyer have been eliminated. And   
   Homicide would want to legitimatize and memorialize Hill's yesterday's-news   
   flash.    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > But why 1:15? That's so long after the shells were actually found   
   that it's not even funny. Well, maybe it is. The usual point of reference for   
   Hill's shout is naturally, but incorrectly, Mooney's shout. It wouldn't have   
   taken Fritz, Sims, and    
   Boyd 15 minutes to get their act together to counter Mooney. More likely it   
   could have been implemented in about three or four minutes--say, after someone   
   upstairs (through an open window) or downstairs--perhaps Hill himself--heard   
   Sawyer's 1:11    
   reverberating radio bomb re the "third floor", and after the great minds of   
   Homicide confabbed a bit re a counter-strategy. "Okay, let's use you, Jerry."   
   "Great, Cap'n! What do I say?"    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > Hill on his sixth-floor sound stage at 1:15 was hardly news. At that   
   point in time, he would be, simply, disinformation. Hill's breathless,   
   15-minutes-late "Glory be! We just found some empty shells, right there, to my   
   left!" performance    
   actually negates the idea that they were found on that particular floor.   
   Period. Why else such a ludicrously tardy outburst? The tardiness can't have   
   had anything to do with *what* he was shouting. After all, the shells *had*   
   been found. It had to have    
   been about *where* he was shouting *from*.    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > Case, though, not closed. Hill's phony photo op does not say on   
   *what* floor the hulls were found, just on what floor they were *not* found.   
   Oddly enough, at 1:15, at least three photographers caught his epochal   
   performance on film, yet no one,    
   apparently, got a picture of Mooney, at another window, on another floor, 15   
   minutes earlier. Where did all these suddenly swarming photographers come   
   from, fifteen minutes too late to take Mooney's picture? Dropped from the sky,   
   right into Hill's lap,    
   they were, apparently.    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > dcw    
      
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