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   Message 98,520 of 99,700   
   Hank Sienzant to Donald Willis   
   Re: Mass Murderer Henry Kissinger Is Dea   
   03 Dec 23 18:39:22   
   
   From: hsienzant@aol.com   
      
   On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 8:16:54 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:   
   > On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 4:47:06 PM UTC-8, Hank Sienzant wrote:    
   > > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 12:11:22 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:    
   > > > On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 2:01:37 AM UTC-8, NoTrueFlags Here   
   wrote:    
   > > > > And the coup regime celebrates him as a great man. Would Kissinger   
   ever have got into power if JFK had not been murdered by the Lone Nutter   
   Heroes? Maybe, but the evil would have been delayed for a few years.    
   > > > My wife always referred to him as a Nazi. Yes, the irony...    
   > > Now that Kissinger is dead, the name-calling is unleashed. Donald   
   references Kissinger here as a Nazi. NTF calls him a mass murderer.    
   > >    
   > > What can we learn from this? Conspiracy theorists have no shame, Kissinger   
   isn't even buried when they start with the name-calling. Name-calling that was   
   NOT evident while Kissinger was alive.   
   > Once again, Hank Zircon jumps to concussions. You get around it with   
   "references", but the inference is that *I* called him a Nazi. No, that was my   
   wife.   
      
   Yes, I was careful not to say you said it, so thank you for admitting that.    
      
   I did want to point out it was a gratuitous comment, and let’s face it, what   
   was your point in even mentioning what your wife thinks? She doesn't post   
   here,    
      
   > And she called him that long before Kissinger died. You just weren't there,   
   Joe. And just about as long ago, Chrisopher Hitchens was calling him a war   
   criminal. While, yes, K was alive. And you were *there*, I bet--that is, you   
   knew about Hitchens'    
   position. But for the sake of your pompous outrage, you forget that, eh?    
      
   I have no idea what Hitchens said about Kissinger, nor do I care. One can be a   
   war criminal without being a Nazi, so your claim about Hitchens claim doesn't   
   help establish what you claimed your wife said at all. The only person who   
   referenced him being a    
   Nazi on this board, and you did it only after he died.n   
      
   >    
   > And I myself "waited" until the movie "JFK" was about to come out, and   
   commentators were saying it shouldn't be released, and if it is, we shouldn't   
   go see it.    
      
   I don't recall any such arguments, I do recall that many knowledgeable people   
   were upset with Stone making a hero out of Jim Garrison, a loose cannon as a   
   prosecutor who never had any evidence Shaw was involved in a conspiracy to   
   assassinate the    
   president when Shaw was arrested. Perhaps you could educate me on the evidence   
   Garrison had against Shaw. Further, Stone tried to make Oswald into an   
   innocent patsy, ignoring the fact that Garrison, in the indictment against   
   Shaw, named Oswald as a co-   
   conspirator.   
      
      
   > That was actually the moment when I began to wonder if there wasn't, after   
   all, something to the conspiracy theories. Smoke, fire.    
      
   Or it could be conspiracy authors blowing smote in Stone’s eyes, and he in   
   yours.   
      
      
   > So, yes, I owe my CT status to LNs in the media. 30 years after the fact,   
   they got me interested in the subject. Gotta loves those LNs! Thank you,   
   Hank...    
      
   Sorry, I don't see how getting “interested in the subject” automatically   
   translates into you becoming a CT, especially one with the beliefs you've   
   expressed on this board. Did you read the 26 WC Volumes with an open mind, or   
   looking for evidence of a    
   conspiracy that you were already convinced existed?   
   >    
   > dcw   
   > >    
   > > But we can learn more. Perhaps, like conspiracy authors, they wait until a   
   person is dead because the truth of the matter is dead men have no rights. So   
   there is no threat of being sued when you allege a dead person is guilty of   
   conspiracy to    
   assassinate JFK, or is a mass-murderer, or is a Nazi.    
   > >    
   > > Perhaps someone should inform Gil of that. Gil has yet to learn it, as he   
   keeps trying to defend Oswald using legal rights that don't apply to Oswald,   
   because Oswald is dead.   
      
   True to form, Don, like CTs everywhere, ignores the major point I made and   
   concentrated instead on the minutia of whether he or his wife was guilty of   
   associating the term Nazi with Kissinger, especially here on this board and   
   then only after Kissinger    
   was dead. That’s what Don thinks is important on a forum supposedly   
   dedicated to the assassination, rather than whether Oswald’s legal rights   
   were violated while in custody, and since his murder in custody.    
      
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