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   Message 98,575 of 99,700   
   Sam McClung to Sam McClung   
   Re: they were oss ("it's a small world a   
   06 Dec 23 21:33:00   
   
   From: samamcclung@gmail.com   
      
   On Thursday, January 9, 2014 at 9:25:32 PM UTC-6, Sam McClung wrote:   
   > richard stolley's boss at time/life, charles douglas jackson, was o.s.s. and    
   > c.i.a.   
   > > allen dulles and mitch werbell and ruth paine's dad william avery hyde all    
   > > being oss gives the oss real appearance problems regarding the murder of    
   > > jfk, especially since so much of the evidence originated at ruth paine's    
   > > house    
   > >    
   > > then there's e.h. hunt as oss and the demohrenschildt oss connection and    
   > > richard helms as oss and maybe oswald's boss william shelley    
   > >    
   > > what a damn mess it is for the oss    
   > >    
   > > "Sam McClung"  wrote in message    
   > > news:l9lrq...@news6.newsguy.com...    
   > >> allen dulles (prescott bush's attorney, member of skull & bones)    
   > >>    
   > >> prescott bush (aka big mother busher,member of skull & bones)    
   > >> william avery hyde (ruth paine's dad)    
   > >> e.h. hunt mitch werbell - expert at designing and building firearms    
   > >> silencers    
   > >> george de mohrenschildt's brother, dmitri demohrenschildt    
   > >>    
   > >> richard helms    
   > >>    
   > >> jack crichton    
   > >>    
   > >> maybe william shelley (oswald's boss at the tsdb)    
   > >>    
   > >> harold weisberg    
   > >>   
      
   Somewhat updated list:   
   OSS   
   Allen Dulles (became CIA, fired by JFK; Princeton Cap and Gown member;   
   supposedly Skull and Bones member, so was his brother John Foster Dulles)   
   Richard Helms (worked for Dulles; became CIA; supposedly Skull and Bones   
   member)   
   E.H. Hunt (became CIA)   
   Tracy Barnes (became CIA; Scroll and Key member)   
   William Shelley (became CIA; Oswald's boss at TSBD)   
      Per some sources:   
        - Oswald said he was with Shelley outside 411 Elm/TSBD during the   
   assassination   
        - Oswald spoke to Shelley right before leaving 411 Elm and getting in the   
   Rambler   
        - after Oswald left 411 Elm Shelley determined Oswald was "missing" from   
   the TSBD and notified Truly   
   Prescott Bush (GHWB's father; father and son were Skull and Bones members;   
   GHWB was CIA)   
   William Avery Hyde (Ruth Paine's father; affiliated with CIA)   
   Charles Douglas Jackson, Richard Stoley's boss at Time/Life - Richard Stoley   
   bought the Zapruder film for Time/Life on 11-23-63   
   Mitch Werbell - (affiliated with CIA; expert at designing and building   
   firearms suppressors/silencers)   
   James Jesus Angleton (became CIA; supposedly Skull and Bones member)   
   George de Mohrenschildt's brother, Dmitri de Mohrenschildt    
   Jack Crichton   
   Averill Harriman (Skull and Bones member)   
   William Joseph Donovan (affiliated with CIA)   
   William Colby (became CIA)   
   William J. Casey (became CIA)   
   Edward Lansdale (became CIA)   
   John Birch   
   John K. Singlaub (became CIA)   
   Lucien Conien (became CIA)   
   Richard M. Bissell, Jr. (became CIA; offered membership in Skull and Bones,   
   turned it down)   
   Walt Whitman Rostow (opponent of Richard Helms)   
   JD Tippit - (possibly OSS, was by some accounts; affiliated with CIA)   
      
      
    "Must tell Chief Bald Eagle looking wrong way," mutters Abe [Tracy Barnes].   
   He then takes elevator to fourth floor, goes directly to Chief's [Richard   
   Helms's] office, raps out coded knock on unmarked door, enters. Chief is   
   reclining in swivel-chair with    
   feet on desk, arms folded, sleeping. On desk Abe sees torn-up typewritten   
   letter addressed to CHIEF, DIVISION OF DIRTY TRICKS, signed by B. KNOWNOTHING.   
   Chief is balding, slender man, oft referred to by underlings as "Dirty Dick",   
   albeit behind back. "   
   What's up, Chief?" asks Abe. Chief blinks eyes, opens them, snaps, "I see you   
   got my message!" Chief smiles. "What's with this guy Osborne recruited for   
   Fair Play Caper? XYZ man claims he's being used for wet affair by team we sold   
   out at Cochina Bay."    
   Abe shifts weight to left foot, uncomfortably. "Don't know, Chief," he   
   mutters, "Ozzie seems like good man for penetration of target." Chief stands   
   and yawns, grins slyly. . "Well, just the same you'd better contact Tidbit   
   [Tippit] and have him execute    
   alternate . . . plan."   
      
   from Nagell's 10-8-1967 letter   
      
   Seems Barnes and Helms were both CIA Assistant Deputy Directors of Plans so   
   not sure why Barnes was calling Helms "Chief" in the above.   
      
   Bissell's assistant, C. Tracy Barnes, drafted the DDP's response, completing   
   it in January 1962. Barnes was well qualified to present the   
   DDP's case, although hardly an objective observer. One of the Directorate's   
   two Assistant Deputy Directors (Richard Helms was the other), Barnes had set   
   aside his usual duties for a year to concentrate on the Cuban operation.   
      
   from  https://www.cia.gov/static/7b51cd5fb4a1a1751ec567340b8c9a1   
   /Internal-Probe-Bay-Pigs.pdf   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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