From: samamcclung@gmail.com   
      
   On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 8:44:14 PM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:   
   > Alan Ford, "Re Paul Landis" edforum 12/6/23:    
   >    
   > Ira Trantham, DPD; interview, HSCA 6/15/78:    
   > "Seeing Inspector Sawyer at the front door [of the TSBD] he reported for   
   instructions. Sawyer advised they still were not certain where the gunfire   
   came from, but the best guess at that time was the TSBD.    
   > By this time they were joined by Jerry Hill and he and Hill went inside.   
   Hill continued upstairs and an officer W.H. Desham (#7140 DPD) approached him   
   with a prisoner. Advised this subject had been observed 'acting suspiciously'   
   on the third floor    
   without a reasonable explanation for being up there."    
   >    
   > Very tantalizing. Especially as Sawyer about 20 minutes later said on the   
   DPD radio that they had found shells on the "3rd floor".    
   >    
   > Also note that Hill bumped into Sawyer at the front of the building. In his   
   testimony, he says that he went inside with him. Trantham was with Sawyer, and   
   Patrolman Valentine was with Hill, so it seems that all four went in at the   
   same time. (Valentine    
   later reported that he was "assigned to the fifth floor", so we know that he   
   went in & up.) This grand entrance would have been about 12:50 or so, since   
   Hill & Valentine radioed at 12:48 that they were on their way to "Elm &   
   Houston". And this pretty    
   much proves that Sawyer--despite testifying that he went in earlier, about   
   12:34, actually went into the building about 12:50. And thus may have actually   
   been there at the discovery of the shells... on the "3rd floor". /???    
   >    
   > Note: He said "3rd floor" on the police radio, but, for reporters, he said   
   "5th floor". Did he mix up events on the two floors? Either one would have   
   been bad news for the official 6th-floor version.    
   >    
   > dcw   
      
   Seems anyone whose "best guess at the time was the TSBD" as to the source of   
   the shots was possibly one of the conspirators running interference for the   
   source of the intended kill shots from the north and south knolls.   
      
   Seems the probability of investigators being members of the "force" or "Klan"   
   (per Penn Jones) was 50% of the investigators were Klan.   
      
   Applying Penn Jones' ratio to the "all four" you mention would be at least two   
   of them were Klan. That doesn't rule out the other two possibly being   
   sympathetic to the conspirators' cause without having to know anything about   
   what was actually going on    
   behind the scenes, so the other two may have looked the other way a lot.   
      
   Initial report(s) of indicators of foul activity (shells etc.) being on the   
   3rd floor might have been to keep investigators off the upper floors until the   
   conspirators on the 6th floor had planted the initial evidence (Mauser rifle   
   and shells, etc.) and    
   vacated the area pretty much.   
      
   Personally I place full faith in the much maligned Roger Craig and believe a   
   Mauser and 3 shells were found on the 6th floor as spelled out in Craig's   
   detailed manuscript When They Kill A President, and would tend to think the   
   reporting of shells being    
   found on the 3rd floor may have been intentional false reporting to muddy the   
   waters, as may also apply to any shells found on the 5th floor.   
      
   Maybe a third set of shells was found on the 3rd floor, the other two sets of   
   shells I see being the 3 Mauser shells found on the 6th floor, and the 3   
   Carcano shells found on the 6th floor later after the frame rifles/shells were   
   switched from Mauser to    
   Carcano (perhaps because Oswald had left the building).   
      
   Otto Skorzeny who staged the fake death and photographing of "Hitler's"   
   corpse  in the streets of Berlin was one of the orchestrators of 11-22-63 and   
   was very skilled at deceiving investigations.   
      
   "Somebody better take charge of this investigation." per the "High Priest of   
   Dallas County Politics, Field Marshal Bill Decker" per Roger Craig in his   
   manuscript. One of the definitions of field marshall is:   
   "An officer in some European armies, usually ranking just below the commander   
   in chief."   
   https://www.thefreedictionary.com/field+marshal   
   Maybe Craig's use of the term was a reference to Nazis.   
      
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