From: samamcclung@gmail.com   
      
   On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 4:22:30 PM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:   
   > On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 9:05:08 PM UTC-8, Sam McClung wrote:    
   > > On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 4:19:19 PM UTC-6, Donald Willis wrote:    
   > > > Fritz first hears about the shells--The Three Versions    
   > > > ... And the source for Insp. Sawyer's mysterious "3rd floor"    
   > > >    
   > > > First version: Sims/Boyd [Homicide] report (Sims Exh. A). "We [Fritz,   
   Sims, Boyd] went on up to the 7th floor... About that time someone yelled that   
   some empty hulls had been found on the 6th floor... [We] went to the SE window   
   on the 6th floor &    
   saw 3 empty rifle hulls...The empty hulls were found about 1:15." This first   
   version is easily dismissed. Perhaps--it might have been explained,   
   retroactively--the "someone" was just belatedly yelling for Fritz to come and   
   see the hulls, some 15 minutes    
   after they had actually been found. But as late as his Commission testimony   
   (4/6/64), Det. Sims was still saying, "I think the hulls were found about   
   1:15." (v7p162) By then, such a misapprehension would have been corrected.    
   > > >    
   > > > Even the Warren Report, which got a little closer to the actual time of   
   the finding of the hulls, pegged it as late as 1:12, about the time of Insp.   
   Sawyer's DPD radio transmission re the shells on the "3rd [sic] floor" (CE   
   1974 p176/DPD    
   transcription), which it footnotes. But Deputy Luke Mooney, who found the   
   shells, said that when he found them, it was "approaching 1 o'clock" (v3p285),   
   confirmed by DPD Sgt. Harkness' call for the Crime Lab, at about 12:59 (CE   
   1974 p41). One might    
   surmise that the Sims/Boyd "1:15" was based on DPD Sgt. Hill's shout out a   
   6th-floor window, but for more on Hill, we turn to...    
   > > >    
   > > > Second Version: Sgt. Hill: "We hadn't been there but a minute until   
   someone yelled, 'Here it is!' or words to that effect... In front of the   
   second window... were three spent shells... At this point, I asked the deputy   
   sheriff to guard the scene...    
   and went over still further west to another window... and yelled down to the   
   street for them to send us the Crime Lab... I went to the back of the   
   building... and Capt. Fritz & his men were coming up on the elevator. I told   
   him what we found... I [went    
   down to] make sure that the Crime Lab was en route..." (v7pp45-6).    
   > > >    
   > > > Right away--contradiction. Hill has Fritz coming UP to the 6th floor to   
   see the shells. Sims/Boyd has him going DOWN to the 6th floor. And it is not   
   "someone yelling" who first calls Fritz's attention to the discovery of the   
   shells, it's Sgt. Hill,    
   but not with his famous window shout, but with a briefing near the elevator.   
   In fact, the timing seems to track: At 12:58, the shells are found inside,   
   just as Fritz arrives outside. And Hill runs into Fritz "coming up". Note that   
   Hill does not add    
   something like, say, Fritz informed me that he had already heard about the   
   shells. So we must assume here that Fritz (to make good the Hill version) had   
   heard neither Mooney's shout nor Hill's, supposedly coming just after   
   Mooney's. Hill's version is    
   more credible, it seems, at first, than the Sims/Boyd version.    
   > > >    
   > > > But Hill then proceeds to call the first part of his sequencing into   
   question. He does a little time traveling, oh only about 10 minutes, but still   
   traveling: "About the time I got to the street, Lt. Day from the Crime Lab was   
   arriving" (p47). Lt.    
   Day: "Shortly before 1 o'clock I received a call from the police dispatcher to   
   go to 411 Elm Street, Dallas... I arrived at the location on Elm about 1:12."   
   (v4p249) In 1960s French New Wave film terms, this would be called a jump cut.   
   Jumping from circa    
   1:02 to circa 1:12. Hill: "And [Day] went on into the building, and I went   
   over to tell Insp. Sawyer... what we found." (p47)    
   > > >    
   > > > A seemingly harmless advisory. But, based on Sawyer's curious   
   transmission (see above), about this same time, Sawyer heard Hill say that   
   they had found shells on... the "3rd floor". As Sawyer testified, "This was   
   reported to me by somebody inside    
   the building" (v6p322) Hill fills the bill. And, as we shall see, Fritz has   
   fits. DPD poetry.    
   > > >    
   > > > But why did Hill have to tell Sawyer anything? The two of them--along   
   with a Patrolman Valentine--entered the depository together, about 12:52. (CE   
   1974 p28: 12:48 radio transmission: Hill and Valentine "en route Elm &   
   Houston"/Sawyer: "I went [in]    
   with a couple of officers" [v6p317]) At some point, though, the three must   
   have split up and gone their separate ways. Valentine "was assigned to the   
   fifth floor" (v25p914), and there are indeed photos of him watching over the   
   5th or 6th floor. Hill was    
   there for Mooney's find.    
   > > >    
   > > > But Sawyer must, for some reason, have left the search party early,   
   before anything had been found. If he had been present at such a significant   
   discovery, he would have radioed as soon as he got back out front. And at   
   1:08, Harkness radioes, "   
   Anyone that gets information regarding this incident down here, bring it to 9   
   [Sawyer] at Elm & Houston." (CE 1974 p50) So, about 1:08, Sawyer begins   
   processing information out front, but he doesn't use the radio himself until   
   1:12, after Hill catches    
   him up on what the searchers found, some time after Sawyer splits off.    
   > > >    
      
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