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   NoTrueFlags Here to Donald Willis   
   Re: Hill & Sawyer & the 3rd-floor myster   
   10 Dec 23 15:22:10   
   
   From: 19efppp@mail.com   
      
   On Sunday, December 10, 2023 at 5:26:14 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:   
   > On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 11:01:06 PM UTC-8, NoTrueFlags Here   
   wrote:    
   > > On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 9:44:14 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:    
   > > > Alan Ford, "Re Paul Landis" edforum 12/6/23:    
   > > >    
   > > > Ira Trantham, DPD; interview, HSCA 6/15/78:    
   > > > "Seeing Inspector Sawyer at the front door [of the TSBD] he reported for   
   instructions. Sawyer advised they still were not certain where the gunfire   
   came from, but the best guess at that time was the TSBD.    
   > > > By this time they were joined by Jerry Hill and he and Hill went inside.   
   Hill continued upstairs and an officer W.H. Desham (#7140 DPD) approached him   
   with a prisoner. Advised this subject had been observed 'acting suspiciously'   
   on the third floor    
   without a reasonable explanation for being up there."    
   > > >    
   > > > Very tantalizing. Especially as Sawyer about 20 minutes later said on   
   the DPD radio that they had found shells on the "3rd floor".    
   > > >    
   > > > Also note that Hill bumped into Sawyer at the front of the building. In   
   his testimony, he says that he went inside with him. Trantham was with Sawyer,   
   and Patrolman Valentine was with Hill, so it seems that all four went in at   
   the same time. (   
   Valentine later reported that he was "assigned to the fifth floor", so we know   
   that he went in & up.) This grand entrance would have been about 12:50 or so,   
   since Hill & Valentine radioed at 12:48 that they were on their way to "Elm &   
   Houston". And this    
   pretty much proves that Sawyer--despite testifying that he went in earlier,   
   about 12:34, actually went into the building about 12:50. And thus may have   
   actually been there at the discovery of the shells... on the "3rd floor". /???    
   > > >    
   > > > Note: He said "3rd floor" on the police radio, but, for reporters, he   
   said "5th floor". Did he mix up events on the two floors? Either one would   
   have been bad news for the official 6th-floor version.    
   > > >    
   > > > dcw    
   > > But, according to the rest of the Trantham interview, that was Larry   
   Florer, whom we are told was arrested in another building.   
   > Either he wasn't, or Sawyer & Hill covered a lot more ground than they were   
   supposed to have. Which is, I believe, part of your scenario, at least as   
   regards Sgt H...   
   My impression is that Trantham didn't know what he was talking about. I don't   
   think Hill was involved with any arrest in Dealey Plaza. Though, unless he's   
   just lying, he probably did see Hill go into the building.   
      
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