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   JE Corbett to Gil Jesus   
   Re: Secret Service agent Frank Horrigan    
   14 Dec 23 04:54:35   
   
   From: jecorbett4@gmail.com   
      
   On Thursday, December 14, 2023 at 7:10:12 AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:   
   > On Wednesday, December 13, 2023 at 10:44:50 PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant wrote:    
   > > What Corbett said, and you’re ignoring, is this:    
   > >    
   > > “JBC was mostly right except for his belief that JFK was hit by the   
   first shot. But that's something he was told by others. He couldn't have   
   witnessed that for himself.”    
   > >    
   > > You’re leaving JFK out of the rebuttal entirely, but that’s who   
   Corbett was talking about: How Connally came to believe when JFK was hit.    
   > >    
   > > You don’t talk to his point whatsoever.   
   > Who told Connally JFK was hit, Hank ?   
      
   Gil still won't tell us how Connally could have come to the belief that JFK   
   had been hit by the first shot. He had no first   
   hand knowledge that JFK had been hit by the first shot. Any reasonable person   
   would conclude he got that information   
   from another source. Hank has pointed to his HSCA testimony where he all but   
   says Nellie told him that. He could have   
   been told that by someone else as well. Possibly he read or heard of the   
   initial FBI report which said JFK had been hit by   
   the first and third shots. However he came to the belief that JFK had been hit   
   by the first shot, he did not do so on his own.   
   That was fed to him by someone else. He was not a witness to JFK being hit by   
   the first shot because he had his back to   
   JFK when the first shot was fired and could not see him at that time nor did   
   he see him after he turned to look over his    
   right shoulder.   
      
   If we are to accept Connally as a reliable witness, and I do, we can safely   
   dismiss the possibility that JFK was hit by the first   
   shot. Connally said that he immediately recognized the loud bang as a rifle   
   shot and thought it was an assassination attempt.   
   He told us he turned to look over his right shoulder because that is where it   
   sounded like the shot came from. He told us he   
   couldn't see the President when he turned. We see Connally start to make that   
   turn at Z164, so the shot had to precede that   
   frame. Z164 is 3 1/2 seconds before we see JFK's first reaction to being hit.   
   During that time, we see JFK calmly waving to   
   the few remaining spectators on the north side of Elm St. Are we supposed to   
   believe he had already been hit at that time.   
      
   So, Gil:   
   Do you believe Connally's account is accurate?   
   Do you believe the Z-film is authentic?   
   If so, how can you reconcile Connally's account with JFK having been hit by   
   the first shot?   
   If you still believe JFK was hit by the first shot, tell us when you think he   
   was hit and when you see Connally turn before   
   Connally himself was hit.   
      
   I know these are difficult questions which is why I know you won't even   
   attempt to answer them. You will do what you    
   always do. You will either make some lame excuse why you won't answer or you   
   will attempt to divert the conversation   
   to a side issue. Or maybe you will bail out of this thread altogether. Which   
   is it going to be this time, Gil?   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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