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   NoTrueFlags Here to Donald Willis   
   Re: How "Braden"/Florer got on the polic   
   17 Dec 23 09:20:16   
   
   From: 19efppp@mail.com   
      
   On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 11:55:07 AM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:   
   > On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 10:56:12 PM UTC-8, NoTrueFlags Here   
   wrote:    
   > > On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 12:12:38 AM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:    
   > > > How "Braden"/Florer got on the police airwaves    
   > > >    
   > > > It all started with Insp. Sawyer, Sgt. Gerald Hill, Patrolman James   
   Valentine, and Officer Ira Trantham, at the front of the TSBD. "Jerry Hill and   
   [Trantham] went inside. Hill continued upstairs and an officer ap[proached him   
   with a prisoner.    
   Advised this subject had been observed 'acting suspiciously' on the third   
   floor without a reasonable explanantion for being up there... At the front   
   doorway, Sawyer was apprised of this development" and had Trantham take the   
   suspect to the sheriff's.--   
   Trantham's HSCA interview.    
   > > >    
   > > > "Shortly after, a DPD officer brought a boy in a sport coat up and said,   
   'Here is the man that had done the shooting'... Insp. Sawyer was informed of   
   this..."--Chief Criminal Deputy Allan Sweatt, Investigation Report 11/23/63.    
   > > >    
   > > > Quite a jump--from "acting suspiciously" to "the man that had done the   
   shooting". Why was the "prisoner" thought to be the man who shot Kennedy? The   
   man, as far as we know, had no weapon or bullets on him. Did he try to run?   
   Did he confess? The "   
   Braden"/Florer end of this puzzle will remain a puzzle. But, at the other   
   end...    
   > > >    
   > > > The Trantham interview corrects Sgt. Hill, who testified he went into   
   the building with Sawyer. The latter apparently went in a little later. How do   
   I know that he didn't go in earlier? Because, at 1pm, DPD Captain Talbert   
   radios, "I think that 5    
   and 9 (Lumpkin & Sawyer) both are still in the building." (CE 1974 p43) By   
   1:08, Sawyer seems to be out front again--Sgt. Harkness radios that   
   information & persons should be brought to Sawyer. (CE 1974 p50) And at 1:12,   
   Sawyer radios that hulls were    
   found on the "3rd floor".    
   > > >    
   > > > The Braden/Florer puzzle helps clear up the 1:12 puzzle. Sawyer has   
   heard that a man has been arrested, on the 3rd floor, for shooting. About   
   1:10, Sgt. Hill brings Sawyer up-to-date. He says that shells and scraps of   
   chicken have been found.    
   Whether or not Hill indicated the number of a floor for this find, we don't   
   know. But Sawyer ties Hill's information to the earlier 3rd-floor information   
   and radios that the shells were found on the "3rd floor". The old mystery   
   solved...    
   > > >    
   > > > But there was a secondary mystery. Sawyer told reporters that day that   
   shells and remains of fried chicken were found on the *fifth* floor. Where did   
   he get *that*? Educated guess: Chief Deputy Sheriff Allan Sweatt reported that   
   weekend that fellow    
   deputy Luke Mooney yelled out the "5th floor window" that "spent cartridge   
   cases" had been found there. Sawyer was apparently inside when Mooney cried   
   out and did not hear him. But I think that Sweatt must have heard Sawyer's   
   broadcast and went over to    
   tell him about the "fifth floor window". Hence, the adjusted story told to   
   reporters... Another mystery solved?    
   > > >    
   > > > dcw    
   > > You'll probably do better not to drop my "name" over there at the Ed Farm.   
   I think don't like me. I don't mind, though, if you want to.   
   > Yes, I was wondering why you don't post there...   
   Well, nobody really wants to discuss anything. We all pontificate. That's why   
   I like making videos, a better medium for the pontiff. I get ideas from   
   looking at posts, but there's no discussion there. Almost everybody is a   
   propagandist. A few people    
   discuss, but the majority are not useful for discussion.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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