From: hsienzant@aol.com   
      
   On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 11:55:27 AM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:   
   > On Monday, December 18, 2023 at 11:29:57 AM UTC-5, Bud wrote:    
   > > On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 6:53:58 PM UTC-5, JE Corbett wrote:    
   > > > On Sunday, December 17, 2023 at 7:34:25 AM UTC-5, Bud wrote:    
   > > > > On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 8:10:57 PM UTC-5, Hank Sienzant   
   wrote:    
   > > > > > On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 7:53:36 PM UTC-5, JE Corbett   
   wrote:    
   > > > > > > On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 4:16:52 PM UTC-5, Bud wrote:    
   > > > > > > > On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 8:22:24 AM UTC-5, JE Corbett   
   wrote:    
   > > > > > > > > I doubt I will. Just not worth the time or expense of getting   
   a new newsreader.    
   > > > > > > > Pretty sure I won`t. I`m an old dog, I don`t want to have to   
   learn new tricks.    
   > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > But there is mixed signals, if you hit "learn more" you`ll   
   find... "Starting on February 22, 2024..."    
   > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > So maybe an extra week in paradise.    
   > > > > > > > > This group has already been reduced to maybe a dozen regular   
   contributors,    
   > > > > > > > > about a half dozen on each side. If we lose half of them which   
   is my guess,    
   > > > > > > > > the remaining contributors will be speaking to a very small   
   audience. What is    
   > > > > > > > > our most prolific poster, Yellowpanties, going to do when he   
   doesn't have LN    
   > > > > > > > > content to delete?    
   > > > > > > > He has chosen to become meaningless background noise. Better for   
   him then actually attempting to engage in ideas.    
   > > > > > Yes, he’s essentially reduced to spamming the website with the   
   same couple of responses because he doesn't want to actually discuss the   
   evidence. When we've gone toe-to-toe on the evidence, he lost every time.   
   He’ll deny it of course, and    
   call me a liar, but he’ll then spam the group some more and avoid discussing   
   whatever topic is under discussion in that particular thread.    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > By his actions you shall know him.    
   > > > > >    
   > > > > > But when you have no evidence, what recourse do you have? Ben is   
   reduced to doing what he does because he has no evidence.    
   > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > There is really nobody here to discuss things with anyway, there   
   is Ben the Troll, Gil the Martyr and assorted crackpots.    
   > > > > > > > > The McAdams group died a sudden death when its sole moderator   
   passed    
   > > > > > > > > away taking the keys to the group with him. This one will   
   probably die a slow    
   > > > > > > > > death.    
   > > > > > > > It was dead for about a year here once, I would check in and   
   there would be little to no activity. I don`t know what brought it back to   
   some semblance of activity.    
   > > > > > > > > I remember once coming across a newsgroup that interested me   
   and I made    
   > > > > > > > > a long and thoughtful response to something somebody else had   
   written.    
   > > > > > > > > After posting it, I discovered it was the first post made to   
   that group in seven    
   > > > > > > > > years. I had come across a Usenet ghost town. I wouldn't be   
   surprised if that    
   > > > > > > > > becomes the fate of this group, not that 99.99+% of the   
   country will give a    
   > > > > > > > > shit or even know about it.    
   > > > > > > > It does appear that we will be able to read the archives using   
   google. We can relive old glory.    
   > > > > > > We could decide whether the conspiracy hobbyists have become more   
   or less stupid over the years.    
   > > > > > > >    
   > > > > > > > Ben had a conspiracy website, maybe we can go there.    
   > > > > > > Maybe he has it set up for auto delete.    
   > > > > > He found reasons to lock out everyone he disagreed with. I decided   
   it would not be worth my while to post there, as he would call me a liar and   
   lock me out in short order.    
   > > > > That is what he did to Mark Urlik.    
   > > > >    
   > > > > Imagine, the most dishonest person being the arbiter of truth.    
   > > > I suspect this group will die soon after the February 15 lockdown. Only   
   those using newsreaders other than Google will be    
   > > > able to post here and I don't know how many of those there are. I'm sure   
   Yellowpanties is one because of the way he swamp    
   > > > posts. He's able to dump a whole lot of posts at once which I don't know   
   how you could do using Google. He's probably able    
   > > > to queue up a whole bunch of posts to a whole lot of threads and   
   probably just hits SEND. I don't know if I'm even going to    
   > > > stick around the next two month.    
   > > I`ll do what I`ve always done (comment on whatever I feel like commenting   
   on) until the very end. I haven`t changed, the situation has.    
   > >    
   > > It is sort of like watching a sports team that has never made the   
   playoffs. Who knows, maybe they will actually go somewhere in the next few   
   months. Nah...   
   > Yellowpanties is never going to change. He whines that nobody will debate   
   him. He doesn't seem to understand that debate    
   > is a give and take process. Point/counterpoint. One person makes and   
   argument, the other person makes a rebuttal and the    
   > first person responds to that. All Yellowpanties can do is delete a person's   
   argument and label it a logical fantasy, then cries    
   > that nobody has the guts to debate him. How do you debate someone who won't   
   respond to what you write.    
   >    
   > Giltardo takes a different tact. Rather than make an argument, he raises   
   questions, usually inan ones or ones that have been    
   > answered countless times over the years. When the silliness of his loaded   
   questions are pointed out, he claims no one has    
   > answered the question (to his satisfaction, of course), declares victory,   
   then bails out of the thread.    
   >    
   > Neither Giltardo nor Yellowpanties has the courage or the intellect to take   
   an actual position on an issue and then defend it    
   > through reasoned arguments. Their whole game is to try to negate the case   
   made against Oswald as presented by the WC.    
   > They have failed spectacularly in those efforts.    
   >    
   > As for NTF, Don, McClung, Doyle, etc., they have put the nut in nuthouse.   
   NTF's theories are so bizarre I have to wonder if he    
   > truly believes them or is just trolling. Don will take the most obscure   
   facts and then weave an intricate and illogical line of    
   > reasoning that I can't even follow. I finally quit trying. It was giving me   
   headaches. I get to his conclusions and wonder how    
   > the hell did he arrive there? There contributions made by McClung and Doyle   
   are not even worth commenting on so I don't.    
      
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