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|    Message 99,056 of 99,700    |
|    Chuck Schuyler to Ben Holmes    |
|    Re: Bugliosi's SBT Refuted - Watch Von P    |
|    21 Dec 23 21:09:37    |
      From: chuckschuyler123@gmail.com              On Wednesday, December 20, 2023 at 11:39:01 AM UTC-6, Ben Holmes wrote:       > Bugliosi provides his arguments for the Single Bullet Theory: (With my        > responses...)        >        > >"1. Perhaps the biggest argument the anti-single-bullet-theory        > > advocates make is that the alignment of Kennedy's and Connally's        > > bodies to each other was such that any bullet passing through Kennedy        > > would have had to make a right turn in midair to go on and hit John        > > Connally - thus, the 'magic bullet' of conspiracy lore. ..." Pg 458        >        > This might be Bugliosi's opinion... but I think the problem *first*        > begins with demonstrating transit - there's very little evidence that        > a bullet transited JFK's body. But to deal with Bugliosi's point - tis        > true that some CT authors have misrepresented Connally's position        > relative to JFK, but this is hardly the nail in the coffin that        > Bugliosi believes it to be. Particularly since the proponents of the        > SBT need Connally to be turned to his right *MORE THAN HE WAS*.        >        > > "2. A second powerful reason to believe in the validity of the        > > single-bullet theory without any reference to the Zapruder film is the        > > lack of any physical evidence supporting a second gunman. As has        > > already been established, *three* shell casings ejected from Oswald's        > > Mannlicher-Carcano rifle were found on the sixth floor of the Book        > > Depository Building beneath the southeasternmost window. If, indeed, a        > > fourth shot had been fired that day (and hence, there was a second        > > assassin), how is it possible that not one person, out of an estimated        > > crowd of four to five hundred spectators in Dealey Plaza, saw a second        > > gunman? (e.g., a shell casing, a fourth bullet, a second rifle, etc.)?        > > Are we to believe, then, that the second gunman simply vanished into        > > thin air? Or is that nonsense? Again the lack of any physical evidence        > > of a second gunman, all by itself, is extremely powerful evidence        > > supporting the single-bullet theory." Pg 462-463        >        > Bugliosi doesn't address the known problems with CE543, (the lack of a        > 'chamber-mark'), nor the fact that the *earliest* evidence shows only        > *two* shells, not three.        >        > Bugliosi argues that if a second gunman was not seen by anyone, then        > he doesn't exist. A rather silly argument, as he himself must        > certainly know.        >        > I'm not surprised that he doesn't want to deal with the Z-film, since        > it shows the strongest evidence that the SBT never happened.        >        > > "3. Another fact that, all by itself, is virtually conclusive        > > evidence proving the single-bullet theory is that the entrance wound        > > in Governor Connally's back was not circular, but oval. ..." Pg 463        >        > Bugliosi has just proven that JFK had someone *BEHIND* him! Amazing!        > Since the bullet that entered JFK's back left an oval wound, we        > clearly have a "magic bullet" twice... not once.        >        > "Situated on the upper right posterior thorax just above the upper        > border of the scapula there is a 7 x 4 millimeter oval wound."        >        > That makes JFK's at *least* as 'oval' as the entry wound that Connally        > sustained: (1.5 x .8mm)        >        > (Note: Chickenshit is running from this fact right now - and has been        > doing so for weeks...)        >        > But that (a -triple- body transit), is, of course, simply silly. But        > Bugliosi must believe it. Let's play a simple game... Let's change        > *two* words in Bugliosi's assertion:        >        > *****************************************************        > 3. Another fact that, all by itself, is virtually conclusive evidence        > proving the single-bullet theory is that the entrance wound in        > President Kennedy's back was not circular, but oval.        > *****************************************************        >        > Hmmm... the underlying evidence is correct, isn't it? So based on the        > assertion that Bugliosi made, he *MUST* accept that JFK had someone        > *BEHIND* him that took a bullet too...        >        > But serious people will recognize that the hit on Connally was        > tangential, and because of this - WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE AN OVAL ENTRY        > WOUND. For as Dr. Shaw himself noted to the HSCA: "The shape of the        > entrance wound was consistent with a missile striking striking in a        > slightly downward trajectory." But Bugliosi isn't interested in the        > opinion & testimony of the doctor who actually treated this wound.        >        > (And to think, this is a famous prosecutor - and he can't make        > arguments any better than this???)        >        > > "4. Another reason why we know Connally was hit by the same bullet        > > that had struck Kennedy is that the argument that there wasn't enough        > > time to fire a second shot from the bolt-action Mannlicher-Carcano        > > rifle, and hence Connally must have been hit by a second assassin,        > > *doesn't go anywhere*. It would only go somewhere if Commission        > > Exhibit No. 399, *the bullet that struck Connally* (and which the        > > Warren Commission and HSCA concluded had first struck Kennedy), hadn't        > > been fired from Oswald's rifle to the exclusion of all other weapons.        > > Therefore, even if we assume that Commission Exhibit No. 399 did not        > > first pass through Kennedy's body, *we still know that it was fired        > > from Oswald's rifle, not a different rifle*, and we don't have any        > > evidence of a second assassin, only Oswald. Or did Oswald, after        > > shooting Kennedy in the back, hand his rifle to a second gunman        > > standing beside him and say, 'I just shot Kennedy, now you shoot        > > Connally?' " Pg. 463-464        >        > Bugliosi correctly notes that if a *separate* shot hit Connally, then        > there was a second assassin. He makes the presumption that CE399        > struck JFK ... then Connally - although the evidence that such        > happened just isn't there. Most of the medical and some of the        > ballistic testimony was in disagreement with this scenario.        >        > Bugliosi also makes the presumption that we "don't have any evidence        > of a second shooter" - which, of course, is a misrepresentation of the        > testimony that we have. There is *indeed* "evidence" of a second        > assassin. Bugliosi's final statement demonstrates (in my opinion, of        > course) the desperation that Bugliosi is feeling...        >        > > "5. Finally, there's another reason, almost too embarrassingly simple               [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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