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|    NoTrueFlags Here to Donald Willis    |
|    Re: The 1:22pm DPD radio message transla    |
|    23 Dec 23 22:54:41    |
      From: 19efppp@mail.com              On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 5:19:34 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:       > The 1:22pm DPD radio message translates as The jacket was planted and the       witness transplanted (revision)        >        > It seems that all I'm doing these days is correcting myself. James       DiEugenio caught me in a blatant error on the ed forum. I caught myself re       another error on the first version of this thread. I trusted a DPD       transcription of their own radio logs (       CE 705). But, digging out my old tape recording of said logs (provided about       25 years ago by Dave Dix, from I believe, the Minnesota Public Library), I       found that the 1:22 transmission did NOT say just "300 E. Jefferson", but "300       block of E. Jefferson".        I have incorporated the new (old) information accordingly and made the       necessary changes...        >        It's more fun when you correct yourself, isn't it! I'd ask you to digitize       your DPD radio tape, but that probably wouldn't work.       > 1:22pm DPD radio message translates as The jacket was planted and the       witness transplanted (revision)        >        > First faint clue: DPD Sgt. G.D. Henslee transcribes the first line of the       transmission thusly: "Have a description of the suspect on Jefferson."        Actually, the transmission runs, "We have a description on this suspect over       here on Jefferson." The        omitted "over here" makes it sound like the sender, Officer Roy Walker, is       actually on Jefferson. Is there a problem with that? Oh, yes.        >        They do like to omit little things which provide interesting context. Another       is, "19 will be en route (shortly)." Without the "shortly," you can imagine       that 19 might already be on his way. Sometimes people will talk like that. But       with "shortly," you        can be sure that 19 has not yet left. 19, Sgt. Owens, was still at the TSBD       well after Gerry Hill had already said, "19 is en route." Gerry did not leave       the TSBD with Sgt. Owens as he pretended to do.               > Second faint clue: But, first, continuing the text of the 1:22       transmission: "Last seen about 300 block of E. Jefferson. He's a white male,       about 30, 5'8", black hair, slender, wearing a white jacket, white shirt, and       dark slacks". (DPD radio-logs        tape) And note that the dispatcher, at 1:26, has the suspect "going west on       Jefferson from the 300 block". (CE 705 p22)        >        > Third faint clue: At 1:19:05, the dispatcher tells Walker to check out 501       E. 10th at Denver (WMp105). Then, at 1:19:59, he tells Walker "The suspect's       running west on Jefferson from the location" (DPD radio logs/WMp109). When,       at 1:21:37, Walker        radios "I haven't seen anything on Jefferson yet" (DPD radio logs), the       dispatcher again directs him to "501 E. 10th at Denver" (CE 705p20/WM p113).        Finally, at 1:22:36, Walker radios his "over here" description. From his       1:21:37 transmission, we know        that Walker was, at the time, on Jefferson. But we don't know, from his radio       transmissions, whether he was ever at 10th & Patton. He doesn't correct or       follow-up the dispatcher's "10th at Denver", after either of the latter's       advisories.        >        This is all very confusing. I'm sure you know that some of the Dispatcher's       addresses are the result of telephone calls.              > Fourth (getting somewhere) clue: Dale Myers insists that Walker met and       talked to Warren Reynolds at the murder scene: "Reynolds returned to 10th &       Patton at about [1:20], despite Reynolds' testimony to the contrary" (p112).        True, in 1983, Walker        told Myers that he did meet Reynolds, about 1:22. However, he adds, "One of       the used car lot operators saw the incident... Warren Reynolds" (p114). The       latter never said that he saw the shooting--Walker's memory fails him here.        >        > And Reynolds would hardly have been the one to tell Walker, "Last seen about       300 block of E. Jefferson". Ruinously for him, Walker told Myers that it was       "Reynolds [who] gave me the description of the gunman" (p114). Walker was       apparently unaware        that TV film footage has turned up showing Reynolds telling police at the       scene that he last saw a suspicious man going into the back of an old house       near the Texaco station (WM p131). Reynolds, then, could not have been       Walker's "300 block of E.        Jefferson" witness. (Reynolds' suspicious man may not have been the gunman at       all, but a vigilante trailing the gunman.) Myers, then, with one hand, was       simply extending Walker's witness-identity deception, despite his own text and       frame grabs which,        with the other hand, expose said deception! Myers giveth and Myers taketh       away.        >        > Fifth (gathering steam) clue: Myers then "buttresses" the invented       Walker/Reynolds confab with yet another out-of-thin-air incident, based on the       word of... no one at all: "Warren Reynolds, who had come with [Sgt. Bud Owens       & Assistant DA Bill        Alexander] from 10th & Patton, pointed to an old house near the Texaco       station..." (p120) Alexander did not testify to the Warren Commission, and       Owens, in his Commission testimony, did not mention bringing along a witness       to the Texaco area. None of        the principals, then--Reynolds, Walker, Alexander, Owens--can support Myers'       two little vignettes re Reynolds going to and leaving the scene of the crime       circa 1:20 and 1:22. Thin air.        >        > Sixth (Eureka!) clue: Relocation, relocation, relocation. Why would Walker       and Myers go to so much trouble to falsely identify and relocate a witness?        Well, what other witness or witnesses were "over here on Jefferson"? (Pat       Patterson was with        Reynolds, so he was most probably an old-house witness, too.)        >        > Robert and Mary Brock were, in effect the gatekeepers of the parking-lot       suspect. Mary Brock was the only witness who clearly stated that she "last       observed [the suspect] in the parking lot directly behind" the service       station. (WM p551) They may        have seen the suspect, but not in the parking lot, and certainly not doffing       his jacket. Because at 1:22, he was reported "seen about 300 block of E.       Jefferson", still wearing his "white jacket". Certainly worth Walker's false       identification of his        witness, and Myers' subsequent, false relocation of him elsewhere. Two wrongs       and no right.        >        Also, timing the location announcements can be treacherous unless you have a       cop calling in. The Dispatcher, and even cops calling in, might be repeating       something that had been said 10 minutes prior.                      [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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