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   NoTrueFlags Here to Donald Willis   
   Re: The 1:22pm DPD radio message transla   
   24 Dec 23 23:14:16   
   
   From: 19efppp@mail.com   
      
   On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 12:03:23 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:   
   > On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 10:54:42 PM UTC-8, NoTrueFlags Here   
   wrote:    
   > > On Saturday, December 23, 2023 at 5:19:34 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:    
   > > > The 1:22pm DPD radio message translates as The jacket was planted and   
   the witness transplanted (revision)    
   > > >    
   > > > It seems that all I'm doing these days is correcting myself. James   
   DiEugenio caught me in a blatant error on the ed forum. I caught myself re   
   another error on the first version of this thread. I trusted a DPD   
   transcription of their own radio logs (   
   CE 705). But, digging out my old tape recording of said logs (provided about   
   25 years ago by Dave Dix, from I believe, the Minnesota Public Library), I   
   found that the 1:22 transmission did NOT say just "300 E. Jefferson", but "300   
   block of E. Jefferson".    
   I have incorporated the new (old) information accordingly and made the   
   necessary changes...    
   > > >    
   > > It's more fun when you correct yourself, isn't it! I'd ask you to digitize   
   your DPD radio tape, but that probably wouldn't work.   
   > And I haven't the slightest idea of how that would be done.   
   > > > 1:22pm DPD radio message translates as The jacket was planted and the   
   witness transplanted (revision)    
   > > >    
   > > > First faint clue: DPD Sgt. G.D. Henslee transcribes the first line of   
   the transmission thusly: "Have a description of the suspect on Jefferson."   
   Actually, the transmission runs, "We have a description on this suspect over   
   here on Jefferson." The    
   omitted "over here" makes it sound like the sender, Officer Roy Walker, is   
   actually on Jefferson. Is there a problem with that? Oh, yes.    
   > > >    
   > > They do like to omit little things which provide interesting context.   
   Another is, "19 will be en route (shortly)." Without the "shortly," you can   
   imagine that 19 might already be on his way. Sometimes people will talk like   
   that. But with "shortly,"    
   you can be sure that 19 has not yet left. 19, Sgt. Owens, was still at the   
   TSBD well after Gerry Hill had already said, "19 is en route." Gerry did not   
   leave the TSBD with Sgt. Owens as he pretended to do.   
   > I remember that when--ever so many years ago--I was looking at the various   
   vehicles carrying various officials from Dealey to Oak Cliff, there seemed to   
   be several inexplicable or contradictory statements.   
   > > > Second faint clue: But, first, continuing the text of the 1:22   
   transmission: "Last seen about 300 block of E. Jefferson. He's a white male,   
   about 30, 5'8", black hair, slender, wearing a white jacket, white shirt, and   
   dark slacks". (DPD radio-logs    
   tape) And note that the dispatcher, at 1:26, has the suspect "going west on   
   Jefferson from the 300 block". (CE 705 p22)    
   > > >    
   > > > Third faint clue: At 1:19:05, the dispatcher tells Walker to check out   
   501 E. 10th at Denver (WMp105). Then, at 1:19:59, he tells Walker "The   
   suspect's running west on Jefferson from the location" (DPD radio   
   logs/WMp109). When, at 1:21:37, Walker    
   radios "I haven't seen anything on Jefferson yet" (DPD radio logs), the   
   dispatcher again directs him to "501 E. 10th at Denver" (CE 705p20/WM p113).   
   Finally, at 1:22:36, Walker radios his "over here" description. From his   
   1:21:37 transmission, we know    
   that Walker was, at the time, on Jefferson. But we don't know, from his radio   
   transmissions, whether he was ever at 10th & Patton. He doesn't correct or   
   follow-up the dispatcher's "10th at Denver", after either of the latter's   
   advisories.    
   > > >    
   > > This is all very confusing.   
   > One of the less important paragraphs here anyway.   
   > I'm sure you know that some of the Dispatcher's addresses are the result of   
   telephone calls.   
   > Yes, hence my syncing of Walker's 12:22 message with, apparently, the   
   Brocks' contact with the 'patcher. As I recall, some of the addresses on the   
   radio were simply the addresses of the callers, not of the incident itself.   
   > > > Fourth (getting somewhere) clue: Dale Myers insists that Walker met and   
   talked to Warren Reynolds at the murder scene: "Reynolds returned to 10th &   
   Patton at about [1:20], despite Reynolds' testimony to the contrary" (p112).   
   True, in 1983, Walker    
   told Myers that he did meet Reynolds, about 1:22. However, he adds, "One of   
   the used car lot operators saw the incident... Warren Reynolds" (p114). The   
   latter never said that he saw the shooting--Walker's memory fails him here.    
   > > >    
   > > > And Reynolds would hardly have been the one to tell Walker, "Last seen   
   about 300 block of E. Jefferson". Ruinously for him, Walker told Myers that it   
   was "Reynolds [who] gave me the description of the gunman" (p114). Walker was   
   apparently unaware    
   that TV film footage has turned up showing Reynolds telling police at the   
   scene that he last saw a suspicious man going into the back of an old house   
   near the Texaco station (WM p131). Reynolds, then, could not have been   
   Walker's "300 block of E.    
   Jefferson" witness. (Reynolds' suspicious man may not have been the gunman at   
   all, but a vigilante trailing the gunman.) Myers, then, with one hand, was   
   simply extending Walker's witness-identity deception, despite his own text and   
   frame grabs which,    
   with the other hand, expose said deception! Myers giveth and Myers taketh   
   away.    
   > > >    
   > > > Fifth (gathering steam) clue: Myers then "buttresses" the invented   
   Walker/Reynolds confab with yet another out-of-thin-air incident, based on the   
   word of... no one at all: "Warren Reynolds, who had come with [Sgt. Bud Owens   
   & Assistant DA Bill    
   Alexander] from 10th & Patton, pointed to an old house near the Texaco   
   station..." (p120) Alexander did not testify to the Warren Commission, and   
   Owens, in his Commission testimony, did not mention bringing along a witness   
   to the Texaco area. None of the    
   principals, then--Reynolds, Walker, Alexander, Owens--can support Myers' two   
   little vignettes re Reynolds going to and leaving the scene of the crime circa   
   1:20 and 1:22. Thin air.    
   > > >    
   > > > Sixth (Eureka!) clue: Relocation, relocation, relocation. Why would   
   Walker and Myers go to so much trouble to falsely identify and relocate a   
   witness? Well, what other witness or witnesses were "over here on Jefferson"?   
   (Pat Patterson was with    
   Reynolds, so he was most probably an old-house witness, too.)    
   > > >    
      
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