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   Message 99,289 of 99,700   
   Gil Jesus to All   
   Why I believe the Govenment's Case Again   
   16 Jan 24 02:40:43   
   
   From: gjjmail1202@gmail.com   
      
   I am not a conspiracy theorist. By that, I mean that I don't see conspiracies   
   under every rock. You won't see me writing about popular conspiracy theories    
   like 9/11, Sandy Hook, Flight 800 or the Moon Landing.   
      
   But I have a problem with the government's case against Lee Harvey Oswald. I   
   believe that the Dallas Police/ FBI/ Warren Commission's case against Oswald   
   was fraudulent.    
      
   There are several reasons why I believe this and this is the 4th reason. In my   
   opinion, these reasons are the "smoking guns" of Oswald's innocence. Not only   
   were many of the steps taken by authorities ILLEGAL, they do not fall into any   
   category of what a    
   normal homicide investigation would involve.   
      
   In the first three installments of this series, I've listed the reasons as:   
   a.) the level of corruption in the Dallas prosecutorial system, b.) the way   
   the authorities handled Oswald and c.) the way the authorities handled the   
   evidence.   
      
   Reason # 4. The way the authorities handled the witnesses.   
      
   Evidence of witness intimidation through harassment and threats   
      
   One example of witness coercion comes from the testimony of W.W. Litchfield   
   II, who told the FBI that he saw a man who looked like Oswald in the Carousel   
   Club.   
   He told the Commission that the FBI threats definitely had an effect on how he   
   answered their questions:   
      
   Mr. HUBERT. I gather that you were more positive of the identity of Oswald as   
   being the man in the Carousel on the occasion we have been speaking about at   
   one time than you are now?   
   Mr. LITCHFIELD. I was; yes.   
   Mr. HUBERT. What has caused your opinion in the matter to weaken?   
   Mr. LITCHFIELD. The fact that they gave me the polygraphic test, that showed   
   when they asked me–was it definitely him, it didn’t show up right, and the   
   fact that I had told Don when I called him, I said, “It sure as heck looks   
   like him,” and when    
   the police were questioning me, they said, “Are you positive, are you   
   positive, are you positive?” I said, “It looks like him, it looks like   
   him, it looks like him.” And they come back, “Are you positive, are you   
   positive?”   
   And then the fact that when the Federal agents talked to me, they said, “You   
   know, if you say you are positive and it wasn’t him,” it’s a Federal   
   charge, and I said, “Well, I’m not that positive.”   
   Mr. HUBERT. The Federal agent told you if you gave an opinion—   
   Mr. LITCHFIELD. No; they said, “If you give false information as to an exact   
   statement–” not an opinion, but if I say I’m positive, that’s a   
   statement.   
   Mr. HUBERT. But, what has caused you to weaken in your opinion it was Oswald,   
   as you tell it to me, is the fact that you got the impression that if you gave   
   a positive identification and it proved to be false, that it would be a   
   Federal offense, is that    
   correct ?   
   Mr. LITCHFIELD. Yes; they said giving false information to the FBI, and I’m   
   not 100 percent pure positive. I say, “It bears a close resemblance,” and   
   this is all I can say.   
   Mr. HUBERT. And that’s all you did tell them ?   
   Mr. LITCHFIELD. Yes, sir; that’s the statement I signed. ( 14 H 107-108 )   
      
   The FBI used threats against witnesses who were sure of what they saw to make   
   them appear less sure in the official record.   
   This same tactic was used on witnesses who said they were “positive” that   
   the man they saw was not Oswald.   
      
   This is why Federal agents were present during the questioning of witnesses at   
   several different locations including the Tippit murder scene, the Dallas   
   Police station and the Texas Theater, when the FBI had no legal jurisdiction   
   in any of these crimes.   
      
   They were there to hear, question and intimidate witnesses.   
      
   These tactics seemed to work. Original stories like the one of Charles Givens,   
   who at first said he saw Oswald on the first floor at 11:50 and then said he   
   hadn’t seen Oswald all morning.   
      
   Or Domingo Benavides, who was 15 feet away from the Tippit killer but was   
   afraid of not being able to identify the killer if he said he could, so he   
   declined to view a lineup.   
      
   But in the case of Marina Oswald, the threat was to deport her if she didn’t   
   “cooperate” with the “investigation”. Deportation would have meant   
   that she would have gone back to Russia without her kids, who were American   
   citizens by birth. She’   
   d go, they’d stay. The threat of losing her children would have been enough   
   to make ANY mother tell them what they wanted to hear. True or not.   
      
   The intimidation of Marina Oswald   
      
   More evidence of FBI intimidation and threats of witnesses comes no less from   
   Oswald’s brother Robert, who told the Commission that he overheard the FBI   
   threaten to deport Marina Oswald if she did not cooperate with them.   
      
   Mr. OSWALD. In my presence. And the tone of the reply between this gentle man   
   and Mr. Gopadze, and back to Marina, it was quite evident there was a   
   harshness there, and that Marina did not want to speak to the FBI at that   
   time. And she was refusing to.    
   They were insisting, sir. And they implied in so many words, as I sat   
   there–if I might state–with Secret Service Agent Gary Seals, of Mobile,   
   Ala.–we were opening the first batch of mail that had come to Marina and   
   Lee’s attention, and we were    
   perhaps just four or five feet away from where they were attempting this   
   interview, and it came to my ears that they were implying that if she did not   
   cooperate with the FBI agent there, that this would perhaps–I say, again, I   
   am implying–in so many    
   words, that they would perhaps deport her from the United States and back to   
   Russia. ( 1 H 410 )   
      
   The FBI even brought an agent from the Immigration and Naturalization Service   
   all the way from New York into the Inn at Six Flags ( where Marina was to be   
   kept incommunicado for two months ) to scare Marina and “advise her to   
   help” the FBI:   
      
   Mr. RANKIN. Did you see anyone from the Immigration Service during this period   
   of time ?   
   Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.   
   Mr. RANKIN. Do you know who that was ?   
   Mrs. OSWALD. I don’t remember the name. I think he is the chairman of that   
   office. At least he was a representative of that office.   
   Mr. RANKIN. By “that office” you mean the one at Dallas ?   
   Mrs. OSWALD. I was told that he had especially come from New York, it seems to   
   me.   
   Mr. RANKIN. What did he say to you ?   
      
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