From: sirslick@fast.net   
      
   On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 11:48:39 AM UTC-5, BT George wrote:   
   > On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 9:21:53 AM UTC-6, Ben Holmes wrote:    
   > > On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 16:18:48 -0800 (PST), Bud     
   > > wrote:    
   > >    
   > > >On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 10:22:18?AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:    
   > > >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 03:57:36 -0800 (PST), Bud     
   > > >> wrote:    
   > > >>    
   > > >>>On Wednesday, January 24, 2024 at 6:10:22?AM UTC-5, Gil Jesus wrote:    
   > > >>>> On Tuesday, January 23, 2024 at 5:08:58?PM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:    
   > > >>>>>    
   > > >>>>> Such as the OVERWHELMING evidence that witnesses were intimidated   
   into shutting up about what they heard and saw.    
   > > >>>>>    
   > > >>>>> The multiple examples of eyewitnesses swearing under oath that they   
   didn't say what the FBI reported them saying.    
   > > >>>>>    
   > > >>>>> The INCREDIBLE problems with the chain of custody.    
   > > >>>>>    
   > > >>>>> The impossible selection of witnesses to call to testify, and the   
   number of irrelevant questions asked.    
   > > >>>>>    
   > > >>>>> The *PROVEN* lies told by the WC & HSCA.    
   > > >>>>>    
   > > >>>>> The list can go on and on... (Indeed, Gil Jesus could expand this   
   list immensely.)    
   > > >>>>>    
   > > >>>>> Believers simply shut their eyes to the evidence.    
   > > >>>>>    
   > > >>>>> Can't admit the truthfulness of the above, or explain it in   
   non-conspiratorial terms.    
   > > >>>>>    
   > > >>>>> They simply run away.    
   > > >>>>>    
   > > >>>>> EVERY    
   > > >>>>>    
   > > >>>>> SINGLE    
   > > >>>>>    
   > > >>>>> TIME!    
   > > >>>> And what you've just listed is the "smoking gun" of Oswald's   
   innocence.    
   > > >>>> In a normal criminal investigation, you don't:    
   > > >>>>    
   > > >>>> Continue to question a suspect once he has "lawyered up".    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> As long as he is answering questions they will keep asking them.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Keep a suspect from making a phone call until the next day.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> So?    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Refuse his family's request to speak with him.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> They spoke with him.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Put him in lineups with police employees dressed differently than the   
   witnesses' descriptions.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> So? You don`t understand lineups, they aren`t an attempt to fool   
   people.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Stage those lineups without a defense attorney present.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> So?    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Tell witnesses before they view the lineup that the suspect is in the   
   lineup.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> Support that.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Dissuade criminal attorneys from talking to the suspect.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> How so?    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Arraign a suspect on murder charges without defense counsel present   
   or appointing counsel if he has none.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> So if a suspect refuses legal representation you can never charge   
   them?    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Fail to establish a chain of custody for the evidence AT THE POINT OF   
   DISCOVERY by the use of evidence logs.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> You refuse to show that the DPD handled the evidence in this case any   
   different than any other case (cases which resulted in a high conviction   
   rate).    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Fail to photograph evidence as found.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> You fail to show this is necessary (or even possible in some cases).    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Fail to secure evidence once it is collected.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> Whatever that means.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Fail to secure the Dealey Plaza and Tenth Ave. crime scenes.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> Show they handled these crime scenes any different than others.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Fail to correctly identify evidence that is clearly marked.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> Show this.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Fail to protect the suspect after receiving death threats against   
   him.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> Did Ruby send death threats?    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Coerce, threaten and harass witnesses into changing their stories or   
   remaining silent.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> Show this.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Altering witness statements on reports.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> Show this.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Altering statements and forging signatures on sworn affidavits.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> Show this.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> And that doesn't even count the inconsistencies in the descriptions   
   of the wounds or the autopsy debacle.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> Like?    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Or the fact that the shells allegedly found at the Tippit murder   
   scene do not match the bullets removed from his body.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> Did they find all the shells? All the bullets?    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> No, you're right, all of these things would not have occurred in a   
   normal criminal investigation.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> Wasn`t a normal criminal investigation. Police probably don`t   
   interview more than a dozen people in a normal criminal investigation.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> But they would have occurred in a case where the authorities were   
   trying to frame someone for a crime he did not commit.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> You refuse to walk us through how such a framing is even possible.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> And since ALL of these were done in this case, it becomes obvious   
   that the authorities arrested the wrong man for the crime.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> You have to be a contortionist to get there.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Then covered up that fact.    
   > > >>>>    
   > > >>>> "Believers", as you call them, have spent the last 60 years making up   
   excuses for these shortcomings. They think their comments,    
   > > >>>> speculations and opinions are the equivalent of evidence. They try to   
   fill in the holes with "common sense" and "reason", neither of which    
   > > >>>> is recognized as evidence in a court of law. Neither should they be   
   accepted in the court of public opinion.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> Information is useless unless you can apply reason to it. That is why   
   you get to the places you do, you can`t reason.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> They just can't wrap their minds around the fact that they were lied   
   to about this case.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> By everybody, according to you folks.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> Corroboration means nothing to these people. It doesn't matter if 30,   
   40, or 50 witnesses all saw or heard the same thing.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> You have to look at all information correctly, for what it actually   
   is, and what it isn`t. You frame things incorrectly and remove important   
   context, which leaves you with nothing but hot air empty claims.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>>> They either lied or were all mistaken.    
   > > >>>    
   > > >>> Ironic.    
   > > >>>    
      
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