From: chuckschuyler123@gmail.com   
      
   On Tuesday, January 30, 2024 at 9:23:55 AM UTC-6, Ben Holmes wrote:   
   > My Scenario - The Conclusion    
   >    
   > First - a quick review is in order. I've demonstrated that I will do    
   > precisely what I say I will: to wit, I will match in length, detail,    
   > and number of citations any scenario posted by a believer.    
      
   Strawman.   
      
      
      
   I've done    
   > so repeatedly, and invariably, believers then run away. I then    
   > demonstrated that the Warren Commission refused to investigate prior    
   > assassination attempts that would have shed light on the conspiracy to    
   > murder the President.    
      
   Begging the question.   
      
   Team Oswald has never shown that what happened in Dealey Plaza wasn't a   
   one-off lone nut.   
      
      
      
   I then showed that the Warren Commission had    
   > their "conclusions" in written form before they interviewed a single    
   > witness...    
      
   In the sane world of 1963/1964, where math wasn't racist and a boy was a boy   
   and a girl was a girl, there was no doubt Oswald killed JFK, wounded JBC, and   
   killed JDT. The question revolved around how it happened and whether Oswald   
   had any confederates or    
   was put up to it. In the insane bubble you occupy with Fish Part Messiah,   
   Oswald is an American tragic-hero, wrongly railroaded for a crime he was   
   absolutely innocent of. Oswald was a "true" patsy who didn't fire at the   
   motorcade or even shoot Tippit.    
   This is an insane position. Even your fellow hobbyists like The Toilet and   
   Gentleman Don Willis believe Oswald was up-to-his-neck complicit in the   
   assassination. You and Gil have staked out a position on the far, far, fringes   
   of the conspiracy hobby. You    
   guys are the 911 Truther hobby version of the 911 "No Planers" who are a   
   fringe element of the 911 Truther hobby. No Planers believe no planes hit the   
   Pentagon or WTCs and that the wreckage of Flight 93 in Pennsylvania was carted   
   there later.   
      
   Because you are afflicted with the disease of conspiracism, you do not see how   
   insane your ideas are. Like today's gender confused teenage girl who looks in   
   the mirror and sees herself as a boy, you and Gil look in the mirror and see   
   yourselves as    
   reasonable Investigooglers on the trail of the assassins. You're not.   
      
      
   and that the Commission clearly indicated a desire **NOT**    
   > to hold a real investigation. I then demonstrated that the evidence    
   > from just moments after the shooting strongly supported a shooter at    
   > the Grassy Knoll.    
      
   There is no strong evidence for anything other than shots from above and   
   behind. This was true then and true today and will be true 100 years from now.   
      
      
   I went on to show that the original medical opinion    
   > within hours was for a frontal shot striking JFK.   
      
   Opinion. The autopsy showed otherwise.   
      
      
    I then demonstrated    
   > that believers deny what the Commission stated about when Connally is    
   > seen reacting to a shot in the film, yet refuse to *explain* that    
   > reaction. I demonstrated that the Warren Commission provably lied    
   > about which shot struck Connally.    
      
   Lied or off by a fraction of a second in light of newer analysis over the   
   decades?   
      
   And you think the Z film was altered, so why call their conclusions a lie if   
   they're looking at an altered film?   
      
      
   I then demonstrated that there's    
   > *no* evidence for transit - which is necessary to an SBT.    
      
   There is evidence of a transit, but you don't accept it. You do you.   
      
      
   I then    
   > demonstrated that the Edgewood Arsenal tests contradicted the Warren    
   > Commission's theory, and they simply ignored those facts. I then    
   > covered evidence tending to show that the Autopsy Report isn't the    
   > original one.    
      
   Dr. Ben Holmes. Lol.   
      
      
   I then demonstrated that CE-399 doesn't have any valid    
   > chain of custody.    
      
   Endlessly discussed here, and no I'm not going to sift through the hundreds of   
   threads and posts that you'll say don't "prove you wrong" to your unique   
   satisfaction.   
      
      
   In the last three posts, I showed how one of the    
   > assassins was clearly identified by numerous witnesses as wearing a    
   > white shirt, and was arrested - but wasn't Oswald. In the last two    
   > posts, I've pointed out the evidence for fraudulent alteration of the    
   > medical evidence.    
      
   Addressed over and over.   
      
      
   The last post showed provable alteration of an    
   > original FBI signed & dated report, as well as the problems with the    
   > alleged "paper bag." I then showed the problems of the BOH photo, and    
   > the scientific evidence for a frontal shot. I posted the famous 16    
   > Smoking Guns - unanswered by any believer.    
   >    
   >    
   > So what is the scenario - boiled down into a few easily read    
   > paragraphs?    
   >    
   > There were multiple attempts on JFK's life in 1963, as I've cited for,    
   > all within a few weeks of each other - and the one in Dallas    
   > succeeded. It was a simple matter of having a security stand-down by    
   > the Secret Service - multiple assassins in Dealey Plaza, and a    
   > cover-up to conceal these facts by a Commission dedicated to a lone    
   > assassin scenario before they took any testimony at all. That this    
   > assassination was done by those connected with government is shown by    
   > the fact that only those in government had the power to do what was    
   > provably done, both before the assassination, and afterward.    
   >    
   > This explanation better fits the known evidence, evidence that was    
   > either ignored or lied about by the Warren Commission - AS I HAVE    
   > PROVEN ABOVE - and thus is a better explanation of the facts that put    
   > forth by the Warren Commission.    
   >    
   > And although it's certainly possible that Lee Harvey Oswald was a    
   > member of that conspiracy, the evidence far better supports that he    
   > was the designated patsy for the crime... something he himself    
   > realized and stated. That the Warren Commission simply ignored or lied    
   > about any evidence that didn't lead to Oswald shows that the truth    
   > wasn't the goal of the Warren Commission.    
   >    
   > It's worth noting that the *LAST* official investigation agrees that a    
   > conspiracy better fits the known evidence than a lone assassin. This    
   > begs the question of why believers seem stuck in 1964 - virtually    
   > NEVER addressing the evidence not known by the Warren Commission.    
   >    
   > The overwhelming majority of Americans accept a conspiracy in this    
   > case.    
   > http://22november1963.org.uk/what-do-people-think-about-the-jf   
   -assassination.html    
      
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