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|    Message 99,437 of 99,700    |
|    Hank Sienzant to Ben Holmes    |
|    Re: The Truth That WCR Believers Run Fro    |
|    01 Feb 24 15:13:21    |
      From: hsienzant@aol.com              On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 10:34:35 AM UTC-5, Ben Holmes wrote:       > First - a quick review is in order. I've demonstrated that I will do        > precisely what I say I will: to wit, I will match in length, detail,        > and number of citations any scenario posted by a believer. I've done        > so repeatedly, and invariably, believers then run away. I then        > demonstrated that the Warren Commission refused to investigate prior        > assassination attempts that would have shed light on the conspiracy to        > murder the President. I then showed that the Warren Commission had        > their "conclusions" in written form before they interviewed a single        > witness... and that the Commission clearly indicated a desire **NOT**        > to hold a real investigation. I then demonstrated that the evidence        > from just moments after the shooting strongly supported a shooter at        > the Grassy Knoll. I went on to show that the original medical opinion        > within hours was for a frontal shot striking JFK. I then demonstrated        > that believers deny what the Commission stated about when Connally is        > seen reacting to a shot in the film, yet refuse to *explain* that        > reaction. I demonstrated that the Warren Commission provably lied        > about which shot struck Connally. I then demonstrated that there's        > *no* evidence for transit - which is necessary to an SBT. I then        > demonstrated that the Edgewood Arsenal tests contradicted the Warren        > Commission's theory, and they simply ignored those facts. I then        > covered evidence tending to show that the Autopsy Report isn't the        > original one. I then demonstrated that CE-399 doesn't have any valid        > chain of custody. In the last three posts, I showed how one of the        > assassins was clearly identified by numerous witnesses as wearing a        > white shirt, and was arrested - but wasn't Oswald. In the last two        > posts, I've pointed out the evidence for fraudulent alteration of the        > medical evidence. The last post showed provable alteration of an        > original FBI signed & dated report, as well as the problems with the        > alleged "paper bag." I then showed the problems of the BOH photo, and        > the scientific evidence for a frontal shot.        >        > Vincent Bugliosi wrote what has been hailed as the ultimate defense of        > the Warren Commission's theory that a lone assassin, Lee Harvey        > Oswald, murdered JFK by himself. Let's see if Bugliosi actually dealt        > with the real evidence of conspiracy or not...        >        > From Reclaiming History:        > *********************************************************        > "James Fetzer, PhD, is the editor of the only exclusively scientific        > books (three) on the assassination. David Mantik, MD, PhD, is among        > the leading conspiracy researchers and writers in the current        > conspiracy community. They are both good and sincere men. Dr. Fetzer        > wrote me on January, 23, 2001;        >        > 'What would it take, David Mantik has asked me to inquire of you. What        > would it take to convince you of the existence of a conspiracy and        > cover-up in the death of JFK? What would it take to persuade you of        > Oswald's innocence, which is not necessarily the same thing? Are none        > of our major discoveries - our '16 smoking guns,' for example -        > convincing? And if not, why? And, if not, then what would it take?'        >        > Only evidence, Drs. Fetzer and Mantik. Only evidence." - Reclaiming        > History, page 974.        > *********************************************************        >        > Sadly, although the above quote from Bugliosi's book makes it quite        > clear that Bugliosi was well acquainted with the 16 smoking guns...        > Bugliosi didn't have the guts to actually address these issues.        >        > For in what has become EXPECTED BEHAVIOR for Warren Commission        > defenders, Bugliosi too refuses to answer the evidence.        >        > David Mantik made the mistake of thinking that he was addressing the        > question to an honest man. A mistake that I rarely make - having had        > much experience with the sort of Warren Commission defenders who        > inhabit forums.        >        > Although the details of each "Smoking Gun" must be appreciated by        > reading the book - here's a synopsis of what Bugliosi simply ran away        > from:        >        > *************************************************************        > For the official government account of the death of JFK to be true,        > therefore, at least the following three conjectures - "hypotheses,"        > let us call them, to avoid begging the question by taking for granted        > what needs to be established on independent grounds - have to be true:        > (H1) JFK was hit at the base of the back of his neck by a bullet that        > transversed his neck without hitting any bony structures and exited        > his throat at the level of his tie;        >        > (H2) JFK was hit in the back of his head by a bullet fired from the        > sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository, as its diagrams        > display, causing his death; and,        >        > (H3) these bullets were fired by a sole assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald,        > using a high powered rifle, which was identified as a 6.5 mm Italian        > Mannlicher-Carcano.        >        > Smoking Gun #1: (H1) is an anatomical impossibility, because the        > bullet would have had to impact bony structures.        >        > Smoking Gun #2: The head shot trajectory is inconsistent with the        > position of his head at the time of the shot, falsifying (H2).        >        > Smoking Gun #3: The weapon, which was not even a rifle, could not have        > fired the bullets that killed the President, falsifying (H3).        >        > Smoking Gun #4: The bullets, which were standard copper-jacketed World        > War II vintage military ammunition, could not have caused the        > explosive damage.        >        > Smoking Gun #5: The axis of metallic debris is inconsistent with a        > shot from behind but consistent with a shot that entered the area of        > the right temple.        >        > Smoking Gun #6: The official autopsy report was contradicted by more        > than 40 eyewitness reports and was inconsistent with HSCA diagrams and        > photographs.        >        > Smoking Gun #7: These eyewitness reports were rejected on the basis of        > the X-rays, which have been fabricated in at least two different ways.        > Smoking Gun #8: Diagrams and photos of a brain in the National        > Archives are of the brain of someone other than JFK.        >        > Smoking Gun #9: Those who took and processed the autopsy photographs        > claim that parts of the photographic record have been altered,               [continued in next message]              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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