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|    Message 99,591 of 99,700    |
|    Hank Sienzant to Donald Willis    |
|    Re: Whaley's "Neches" wrecks Warren Repo    |
|    17 Feb 24 20:57:57    |
      From: hsienzant@aol.com              On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 4:29:24 PM UTC-5, Donald Willis wrote:       > Whaley's "Neches" wrecks Warren Report's Oswald/Tippit timeline        >        > Apparently, the Warren Commission panicked when witness William W. Whaley       went off-script, on 3/12/64, and testified that he dropped Oswald off at       "Neches and North Beckley". (In his 11/23/63 affidavit, Whaley mentions only       "500 block of North Beckley"       .) That would have screwed up the official eta of Oswald at 10th & Patton of       1:16. (Warren Report p158) As the WR says, "Neches is within one-half block       of the rooming house at 1026 N. Beckley where Oswald was living." (WRp162)        That would, in fact,        seem to have been an ideal spot for Oswald to get out of the cab--not right in       front of the house, but close, as Norman Redlich here acknowledges. Close       enough perhaps, that is, for Oswald to see without being seen. The       Commission--which had all the        time in the world--went so far as to recall Whaley, who capitulated and now       said that he left Oswald off at "the intersection of Beckley and Neely"       (4/8/64 testimony p429), at (as per the WR p158) 12:54. That would have meant       a walk of about 6 minutes        to get to the rooming house. (WR pp158, 163) Then another 3 minutes before       departing, arriving at 10th & Patton about 1:16. (WRp158) A 13-minute walk.        However, Whaley's blundering, out-of-left-field reference to "Neches" throws       that timeline a bit out        of whack. Dutifully, he retains "Beckley" through it all, from affidavit to       testimony to corrected testimony. But as a cab driver, he must have known       that Neches and Beckley did not actually intersect--certainly he did know by       11/22/63. In fact, that        might have been where Oswald actually instructed him to go, Neches near       Beckley. How else would Whaley have latched on to "Neches"? To reconstruct       the adjusted timeline: Out of cab 12:54 on Neches. Rooming house 12:55.        Leaving rooming house 12:58.        10th & Patton 1:11.        >        > Leaving Oswald patiently waiting around for Tippit to show up, four or five       minutes later. However, no witness saw the gunman do any such waiting, just       walking.        >        > Revised, adjusted timeline, then, for Oswald: Leaving rooming house 12:58.        Arriving Texas Theatre 1:16. No stopovers.        >               So you eliminated Whaley simply misspeaking and saying “Neches” when he       meant “Neely” exactly how?              As you admit,               1. Whaley testified ‘he dropped Oswald off at "Neches and North Beckley”.       ‘              *AND*              2. “Neches and Beckley did not actually intersect”.              *AND*              3. “his 11/22/63 affidavit says the correct intersection was the 500 block       of North Beckley.”              So, me, being a reasonable person and all that that entails, when I put       tsimply concludes Whaley misspoke, and said “Neches” when he meant       “Neely”.              And since the revolver in evidence matches the shells in evidence, and the       revolver in evidence is traceable to Oswald, and numerous witnesses at the       scene said the gunman discarded the shells from his handgun, tossing them       aside as he walked away from        the crime scene, and since Oswald punched McDonald and drew his handgun on       him, and since numerous witnesses picked Oswald out of lineups as the gunman       (stuff you don't admit).              I sometimes wonder if you're just trolling here, mocking conspiracy       “logic” by ignoring the reasonable conclusion and deliberately reaching       the most far-fetched conclusion possible.              But then I remember folks like Mark Lane, Sylvia Meagher, and Harold Weisberg       actually published books with conclusions at least as far-fetched as yours.              > dcw              Hank              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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