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   Message 99,606 of 99,700   
   Donald Willis to Hank Sienzant   
   Re: Whaley's "Neches" wrecks Warren Repo   
   18 Feb 24 15:02:01   
   
   From: willisdonald824@gmail.com   
      
   On Saturday, February 17, 2024 at 9:01:40 PM UTC-8, Hank Sienzant wrote:   
   > So you eliminated Whaley simply misspeaking and saying “Neches” when he   
   meant “Neely” exactly how?    
   >    
   > As you admit,    
   >    
   > 1. Whaley testified ‘he dropped Oswald off at "Neches and North   
   Beckley”. ‘    
   >    
   > *AND*    
   >    
   > 2. “Neches and Beckley did not actually intersect”.    
   >    
   > *AND*    
   >    
   > 3. “his 11/22/63 affidavit says the correct intersection was the 500 block   
   of North Beckley.”    
   >    
   > So, me, being a reasonable person and all that that entails, when I put all   
   that together, I conclude Whaley simply mis-spoke, and said “Neches” when   
   he meant “Neely”.    
      
      
   In his 4/8/63 testimony, Whaley says that he let Oswald out at the *700* block:   
      
   Mr. WHALEY. I went right up on Beckley headed toward the 500 block.    
   Mr. BELIN. Then what happened?    
   Mr. WHALEY. When I got to Beckley almost to the intersection of Beckley    
   and Neely, he said, “This will do right here,” and I pulled up to the   
   curb.    
   Mr. BELIN. Was that the 500 block of North Beckley?    
   Mr. WHALEY. No, sir ; that was the 700 block.    
   Mr. BELIN. You let him out not at the 5oo block but the 700 block of North    
   Beckley?    
   Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir.  (p429)   
      
   So here he overrides the "500" of his affidavit.  (There will be more   
   overrides in his testimony.)  Now, let's see if Counsel Ball can clear this   
   all up:   
      
   Mr. BALL. Here is Neches right here. (on CE 371)   
   Mr. WHALEY. Let me see where Neches is, is that right? Yes, that is it.   
   This is the intersection right there.   
   Mr. BALL. We put an "X" there.   
   Mr. WHALEY. That is where he got off.   
   Mr. BALL. That is where you dropped your passenger, is that right?   
   Mr. WHALEY. That is--as far as I can see that is Neches.   
   Mr. BALL. That is Neches, that is Beckley.   
   Mr. WHALEY. Yes, sir; that is right, because that is the 500 block of North   
   Beckley.   
      
   So Ball points out Neches on the map, and Whaley agrees, "Yes, that is it",   
   and he thinks that's an intersection of Neches and Beckley and that it's the   
   500 block.  The online reproductions of 371 which I've seen don't seem to have   
   an "X" on them.  So we    
   have to trust Ball when he says "Here is Neches right here" and trust Whaley   
   when he agrees and says "Yes, that is it.  This is the intersection right   
   there," where Ball points out Neches.     
      
   Either we trust Ball and Whaley here, or conclude that neither of them can   
   read a map.  Or that Ball lied when he said "Here is Neches".  Or that they   
   are both misreading and misspeaking.  Yes, Ball clears it all up.    
      
   I'll clear it all up:  Neches near Beckley.   
      
   dcw   
      
      
      
   >    
   > Big deal.    
   >    
   > And since the revolver in evidence matches the shells in evidence, and the   
   revolver in evidence is traceable to Oswald, and numerous witnesses at the   
   scene said the gunman discarded the shells from his handgun, tossing them   
   aside as he walked away from    
   the crime scene, and since Oswald punched McDonald and drew his handgun on   
   him, and since numerous witnesses picked Oswald out of lineups as the gunman   
   (stuff you don't admit, but an even bigger deal, as this is the kind of stuff   
   a prosecutor takes to    
   trial).    
   >    
   > I sometimes wonder if you're just trolling here, mocking conspiracy   
   “logic” by ignoring the reasonable conclusion and deliberately reaching   
   the most far-fetched conclusion possible.    
   >    
   > But then I remember folks like Mark Lane, Sylvia Meagher, and Harold   
   Weisberg actually published books with conclusions at least as far-fetched as   
   yours.    
   >    
   > > dcw    
   >    
   > Hank   
      
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